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Anonymous surfing my ass!
From: full-disclosure () lists netsys com (Ron DuFresne)
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:11:23 -0500 (CDT)
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Nick FitzGerald wrote: [SNIP]
Yes, yes but for many -- and for better or worse, though there's no prize for guessing which I think it is -- not using Windows (and even such stupidities as not using Outlook, or worse not using Notes) is not an option without breaking local "security" policies. As the people who are likely to directly benefit most (at all?) from lists such as this are the people who have to be seen to be most committed to enforcing security policies (even if they are grievously stupid policies), throwing out a blanket "don't use Windows" or "don't use <pet peeve network client software>" is not a constructive response. Suggesting sidestepping or subverting the local security policy (I'm not saying Chris was -- it could be inferred from his comment, but that would be a stretch) is grossly unprofessional (unless the suggester is not a security professional, in which case it is just common stupidity).
And yet, for those on the corp backbone stuck using broken software, and unable to login to a system not-so-broked on the inside, perhaps reading the lists from a hotmail or other account is a better option. Or perhaps setting up a openbsd or linux system less prone to these exploits circulating at home might be a better way t avoid some of the hassels with borked systems on their desktops. It all depends I guess upon how much effort they wish in invest into their chosen field of employment/enjoyment. Thanks, Ron DuFresne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!*** OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything.
Current thread:
- Counseling not to use Windows (was Re: Ano, (continued)
- Counseling not to use Windows (was Re: Ano Nick FitzGerald (Jul 14)
- Counseling not to use Windows (was Re: Ano Ron DuFresne (Jul 14)
- Counseling not to use Windows (was Re: Ano Chris L. Mason (Jul 15)
- Counseling not to use Windows (was Re: Ano David F. Skoll (Jul 15)
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- security through obsolescence??!@?! KF (Jul 15)
- security through obsolescence??!@?! Charles 'core' Stevenson (Jul 15)
- security through obsolescence??!@?! martin f krafft (Jul 15)
- w32.frethem.k@mm and good reading Ron DuFresne (Jul 15)
- w32.frethem.k@mm and good reading Nathan Fain (Jul 16)
- Anonymous surfing my ass! Ron DuFresne (Jul 14)
- Anonymous surfing my ass! Charles 'core' Stevenson (Jul 14)