On sf sell out

[full-disclosure () lists netsys com (KF)]

Thats exactly why I love the reply-to on this list. =]
-KF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles 'core' Stevenson" <core () bokeoa com>
To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] On sf sell out


> Er... please disregard that last e-mail it was sent to the list on
> accident. If you're interested in joining our small list and develop
> exploits feel free to contact core-owner () noops english org since I spilt
> the beans.
>
> best regards,
> core
>
> Charles 'core' Stevenson wrote:
> > Georgi,
> >
> > Hi I've always admired your work :) Especially the AIX shellcode..
> > anyways I just thought I would write you to inform you of a small time
> > for exploit developers only mailing list. So far we have about 10 well
> > reputed exploit developers on our list. And that's it! No security
> > consultants, pen-testers, script kiddies... the URL is here. excuse the
> > pop-up; I've found friendly hosting for the list but not the page yet :)
> >
> > http://www.crosswinds.net/~zerodaydigest/
> >
> > Please take a look at the charter. Anyways, we'd all love to benefit
> > from your wide range of exploit development expertise!
> >
> > best regards,
> > core
> >
> > Georgi Guninski wrote:
> >
> > > Here are my 2 stotinki on Securityfocus's sell out.
> > >
> > > I don't mind aleph1 & co. taking $75M. What I am concerned what price
we
> > > shall pay for it. ($75M is too much for collecting other people's
0days,
> > > IMHO)
> > >
> > > What scares me about Securityfocus is that since the beginning 2002
> > > they started not posting some of my posts to bugtraq but seem to post
> > > "politically correct" messages.
> > >
> > > They went so far to not post a real vulnerability  [1](later
> > > indirectly confirmed by Microsoft in a bulletin, not fixed yet).
> > > Then I decided - no 0days for securityfocus and started posting only
> > > comments and opinions, mainly on the topic of full disclosure.
> > > Most of them didn't get to the list, though the opposite of my
> > > opinions were
> > > posted.
> > >
> > > Hope they don't turn into mainstream media outlet and use the power of
> > > moderation for labelling people and ideas as good and bad in their user
> > > base.
> > >
> > > Note: I don't mean to whine for them moderating me down, it is their
> > > right
> > > to do whatever they want with their mailing lists, but think this
> > > should be
> > > publicly known.
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.guninski.com/signedactivex.html (also check ver. 2.0)
> > >
> > > Georgi Guninski
> > > http://www.guninski.com
> > >
> > >
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