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Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll
From: "Bruce Ediger" <eballen1 () qwest net>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:16:43 -0700 (MST)
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Simon Richter wrote:
I believe they have thought about this. Trusted software can only be debugged on a special "developer" machine. My personal favourite would be the "carefully crafted" DVD, which uses a buffer overflow in a player routine (where people optimize for speed over security anyway). :-)
So, let me get this straight: (1) TCPA will only protect us against the what's traditionally been the least virulent form of computer viruses, file infectors. (2) TCPA won't help the spam situation. (3) Only specially licensed machines can run a debugger. (4) TCPA machines won't allow us to copy arbitrary files - the hardware or something prevents us from copying some "magic" files. The upshot of #3 seems like "you can compile programs only if you you've got a special license", but I don't know if the whole thing goes that far. Why on earth would I pay money for such a deliberately, cynically crippled piece of hardware? "Sure, Mr Gates and Mr Grove! I'll pay a thousand dollars for your new Tee Vee I mean Pee Cee!" You've got to be kidding about all this. Surely a free market won't allow this kind of crippling to take place - it will have to be performed by some kind of government fiat. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll, (continued)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll yossarian (Dec 19)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Simon Richter (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Ron DuFresne (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Bruce Ediger (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Simon Richter (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll yossarian (Dec 20)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Thomas Sjögren (Dec 21)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Georgi Guninski (Dec 22)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Simon Richter (Dec 22)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Peter van den Heuvel (Dec 22)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Bruce Ediger (Dec 23)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Georgi Guninski (Dec 23)
- Re: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll Thomas Sjögren (Dec 29)