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Re: Snort with an expert system
From: Tomas Olsson <tol () sics se>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:19:07 +0200
Stefano, According to this book about Snort (http://www.amazon.com/Snort-Toolkit-Beales-Source-Security/dp/1597490997):
"A false positive is an alert that triggers on normal traffic where no intrusion or attack is underway"
That is how we used the term in the paper. Is that not how it is used with an anomaly detector with respect to the use as an intrusion detector?
In addition, I don't understand why there would be no reason that this algorithm would work. Could you explain? The algorithm is developed by experts in Bayesian statistics and has been applied in other fields as well.
But I agree, we have to show that this algorithm works with more experiments.
If somebody would be willing to let us test the algorithm on real data, we would be very happy... :)
/Tomas Stefano Zanero wrote:
Usually, extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. If there was any reason to believe that clustering data in the way you describe would lead to spotting false positives (which, in the case of Snort, would rather be noncontextual alerts which you do not care about), testing it over IDEVAL may be sufficient. Since there is no reason why this should work, you need much more convincing experiments to show that it actually does. And it's not just a matter of the dataset, it's also a matter of what you define as a false positive: in fact, the term "false positive" has a different meaning for misuse detectors and anomaly detectors. Best, Stefano
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