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Re: Making my own IDS... how to detect packet loss ?


From: Aaron Turner <synfinatic () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:15:22 -0700

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Jonathon<thejunkjon () gmail com> wrote:
I am writing my own IDS.  I have a packet sniffer + TCP reassembler
that I've written.  For each stream I detect, I have to keep some
state + a buffer of the packets for the stream.  However, a problem
that I've run into is that sometimes packets could get lost (meaning I
do not capture them, but they were actually sent/received between two
hosts on the network).  If I do drop the packets, my current
implementation gets all messed up since I never end up freeing the
resources I've allocated for that stream.  So, lost packets seem to be
the bain of my current implementation.

My question is (assuming all TCP streams), how can I determine whether
a packet is lost by just looking at packets that I currently have in
my buffer?

The packets could come in any order so just because I receive a packet
with seq #N, doesn't mean that a packet with seq #N-1 was sent.

I hope this is the appropriate mailing list for my question.

If you track the values of the Ack's in packets then you'll know when
you've dropped one or more TCP segments which were received by the
other end.

Example:

Assume server sends 3 packets with Sequence numbers of 10, 50 and 100.
 But you only see 10 & 100.  If the client only Ack's 10, then you
know it didn't see 50 either.  But if it Ack's 100 then you know it
saw data you missed.

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Aaron Turner
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