RE: Bittorrent - utorrent

[dpat () space gr]

Hi Panos,

In fact, the statement that no IDS can "look" into SSL is not completely
accurate.

Here is a number of indicative solutions:

- Change from Cisco to either McAfee Intrushield or ISS Proventia. Under certain
conditions, they can decrypt and encrypt the SSL stream. Of course, this would
not be easy in money terms as I may understand.
- Use a Web/Application firewall (or a reverse proxy) to eliminate Applications
(not connections) that behave like *torrent
- Deploy personal firewalls with a centralized policy that can assist you in
controlling the applications on user's desktops.
- Deploy a gateway content filtering solution (e.g. BlueCoat) that is capable of
monitoring incoming/outgoing SSL traffic.

Hope these help.

Dimitrios G. Patsos

Quoting Panayiotis Psihoyios <ppsih () hol gr>:

> Since it is going through SSL (and no IDS can look into SSL), you have two
> options:
>
> Plan A: Deny SSL traffic, but that usually this is not possible,
>
> Plan B: Let your users out through a proxy server, which will identify
> non-browser traffic using http/s header inspection. Configure your firewall
> to permit HTTP/S out only from your proxy and not your clients.
>
> Regards,
> Panayiotis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On
> Behalf Of Ove Dalgard Hansen
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:38 PM
> To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
> Subject: Bittorrent - utorrent
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am in a bit of trouble,
>
> On a network where i am configuring IDS - using ASA5510 + SSM module, we try
> to deny access to Bittorrent downloads - it consumes quite a bit of bandwith
> and is not allowed by the company's policy.
> We try to filter bittorrent which succedes - but the utorrent changes
> protocol and goes by the SSL port 443 and thereby circumvent the IDS, since
> its not possible to see the encrypted traffic.
>
> Does anyone out there have a good idea of how i am to solve the issue?
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Ove Hansen
> IT-Quality A/S
> Banemarksvej 50F
> Denmark - 2605
>
>
>
>
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