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RE: IPv6 support in IDS/IPS products


From: "Scott Sloan" <swsloan.ml () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:55:50 -0500

Mike,

Adding IPv6 support is not a trivial process. Can you be a little more
specific? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Barkett [mailto:mbarkett () nfr com] 
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:26 PM
To: 'Scott Sloan'; 'David Williams'; 'Planz'
Cc: focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: IPv6 support in IDS/IPS products

Scott -

There is no performance hit on NFR, as IPv6 support is built into the sensor
engine.

Thanks.
-MAB


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Sloan [mailto:swsloan.ml () gmail com]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:49 PM
To: 'David Williams'; 'Planz'
Cc: 'Mike Barkett'; focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: IPv6 support in IDS/IPS products

What is the performance hit when turning on this feature within NFR and
ISS?

-Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: David Williams [mailto:dwilliamsd () gmail com]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:51 AM
To: Planz
Cc: Mike Barkett; focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: IPv6 support in IDS/IPS products

I'm a little surprised.  I have only heard back from two vendors that
claim to do full IPv6: NFR & ISS.  I doubt this is an accurate
representation, so I'll try one more time.  Has anybody heard anything
about the other products out there?

thanks,

D


On 11/3/05, Planz <planz2009 () gmail com> wrote:
  As per the below whitepaper, ISS is supporting IPv6 and corresponding
tunneling to IPv4 and vice versa, but I have seen no claims by other
verdors as well.

http://documents.iss.net/whitepapers/IPv6.pdf

Besides that, I read an interesting slide on IPv6 Security in the
following link:

http://www.wareonearth.com/whitepapers/IPv6SecurityIssues.pps



Mike Barkett wrote:

David -

I will pipe up for NFR.  Our Sentivist Smart sensors are natively
capable
of
"all of the above" at the sensor engine level.  Tunneling, full
analysis,
everything.  And we've been doing it for a couple of years now.

I cannot provide a list of vendors who do this, but I will say that I
was
told 7 months ago by an IPv6 expert that we were the only IPS vendor he
was
aware of who did it "properly".  I don't know if that's actually/still
true,
so I'd be very interested in seeing who else chimes in on this thread.

Not surprisingly, we find this feature to be very popular in the U.S.
government and overseas, particularly in Asia.  What we try to explain
to
the rest of the world is that even if they don't think they are running
IPv6, parts of their network may still be at risk of a tunneled IPv6
attack.

-MAB

--
(nfr)(security)
Michael A Barkett, CISSP
Vice President, Systems Engineering
(www.nfr.com) +1.240.632.9000 Fax: +1.240.747.3512



-----Original Message-----
From: David Williams [mailto:dwilliamsd () gmail com]
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:53 AM
To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: IPv6 support in IDS/IPS products

Hi list,

I've read that some IDS/IPS vendors can monitor IPv6, but not
completely.  For example, they might be able to alert on the
presence of IPv6 traffic, but they can't actually do full analysis
because they can't parse the headers correctly.  Especially for
things like IPv6 tunneled over IPv4, or IPv6 tunneled over IPv6, etc.

Does anybody have a list of which vendors support what, and to what
extent?

thanks,

D





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