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RE: amount of alarms generated by IDS


From: "Harper, Patrick" <patrick.harper () phns com>
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 07:47:16 -0500

I think it depends on tuning and IDS philosophy.  Do you monitor inside
or outside you firewall, or both?  Do you monitor your internal network?
Do you run with all the rules, default set, or do you tailor your
ruleset for the devices and servers on your network?



-----Original Message-----
From: Anton A. Chuvakin [mailto:anton () chuvakin org] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 4:27 PM
To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: amount of alarms generated by IDS

How many alarms will an IDS generate per day? How many percents of them

are false positive? I know it depends on products, the monitor network 
and other factors, such as date, time etc.
It obviosuly does, but I am wondering how stable the FP ratio ('false
positive') will be across different networks. I suspect that everybody
sits on their own numbers and thinks 'oh, its different for every
network'. But is it really so? Maybe the reason that such information is
not widely available is that few people actually analyze their IDS
events with the required depth..? If so, it would add some rocket fuel
to Gartner's IDS bonfire :-) I have some rough metrics from various
production network and various NIDS products (for default signatures),
but am very curious what others have. I'd also exclude some notorious
signatures (like, NOP on port 80) from analysis, and will only look at
"random" FPs vs the systematic ones (such as the above).

Discussion anybody?

Best,
--
Anton A. Chuvakin, Ph.D., GCIA, GCIH
     http://www.info-secure.org
   http://www.securitywarrior.com


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