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Re: The home user problem returns


From: tbird () precision-guesswork com
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:36:59 -0700

Quoting Elizabeth Zwicky <zwicky () greatcircle com>:


On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:23 PM, Tina Bird wrote:
i disagree. i don't know *anyone* who willingly makes a fundamental,
significant change in their behavior without pain as a motivator.

On the one hand, I agree with Tina -- people change their OWN
behavior based on their OWN pain. On the other hand, this insight
leads people to some terrible attempts at training, because people
(dogs, cats, octopus, anything with a brain of reasonable size)
do not respond effectively to imposed pain. Positive training
methods always work better on long-term measures.

correct, as we expect from elizabeth :-) most of the time when i'm presenting
the use of endpoint enforcement techniques to system administrators (the folks
who will be managing the systems) and their end users, i start by describing it
as a reward system for proper configuration, rather than a punishment system
against incorrect or compromised configurations. it's the same as the
artificial ignorance approach to log management, or good ol' deny all firewall
rules. the list of "things that absolutely ought to be configured this way" is
shorter than the list of all possible things that should be prohibited.

so of *course* most folks won't want to do that.

unfortunately, i am consistently told by marketing folks and journalists that
rewarding the right behavior isn't sexy enough to be newsworthy. apparently
selling "a kick ass system for maintaining proper system config, and
simplifying enterprise desktop management" doesn't work - but "scan and block"
or "worm preventers" or "quarantine solutions" will. i think it's absurd, that
stupid reactive approach to life. it was much easier to get the UNIX sys admins
to adopt security mechanisms by pointing out how much easier they make system
management, but apparently that's not always a good sell for the desk top
folks. i don't get it.

tbird


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