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Re: VPN concentrators


From: "B. Scott Harroff" <Scott.Harroff () att net>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:56:19 -0400

I agree with you from the trust perspective.

It is nice though to be able to filter/log/monitor undesirable inbound VPN
traffic though; and this would need to be post VPN device most likely by  a
firewall of some ttype.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Darden" <darden () armc org>
To: <scouser () paradise net nz>
Cc: <firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] VPN concentrators



I don't agree.  Putting authenticated and authorized traffic through a
firewall is redundant.  IPSEC traffic is trusted traffic.  A VPN is an
extension of your network--it is as trusted as any traffic internal to
your network--perhaps more, as it can be completely accounted
for--remember that every packet has a confirmed sip, dip, and payload.

Here is the current best thinking, to my knowledge:

     ds3 to internet
      |
      |
---------------
Bastion Router|
---------------
   |     |
   |      \
firewall   \
   |       vpn engine
   |           |
==================
internal network |
==================




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On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 scouser () paradise net nz wrote:

Off topic slightly, sorry.

Current best thinking is to terminate VPN tunnels inside an external
firewall on
a DMZ, then traffic can be passed back through this or another firewall
before
entering the internal network.

Complexity can lead to vulnerabilities, so what are peoples thoughts on
termination of vpn tunnels on the firewall itself? What are the  pros
and cons
as  you see them?

thanks in advance
James
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