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Re: concerning ~el8 / project mayhem
From: "Anton J Aylward, CISSP" <aja () si on ca>
Date: 21 Aug 2002 12:10:02 -0400
On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 11:28, Barney Wolff wrote:
Why on earth even spend time debating whether config reviews or scans are better? It's equivalent to debating whether structured walkthroughs or testing work better to find software flaws.
Because most organizations are only willing to commit a limited amount of resources, time and effort to "design" and "testing", no matter what the proof that paying up front is many times more cost effective than having to pay down the road. The corporate agenda is rarely the agenda of the technical experts. Often the criteria is "how many lines of code have you written today" against some arbitrary rate chart, rather than something more meaningful. This is one reason I don't work for shops that grind out code anymore. /anton -- It is against the grain of modern education to teach children to program. What fun is there in making plans, acquiring discipline in organizing thoughts, devoting attention to detail, and learning to be self-critical? -- Alan Perlis _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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