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Re: The yearly FTP rant (Was: Re: Passive FTP and NAT/PAT with PIX and Serv-U)
From: "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen () punkt de>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 09:57:21 +0200 (CEST)
Hi all! mjr wrote:
It would appear that it is again time for my FTP rant, so I'm redirecting my response back to the list.Actually, this is firewall-wizards' first FTP rant of the new millenium. :) ...and done with such style, too!! It would be a fine sign of progress if vendors stopped shipping FTP and replaced it with scp/ssh. Someone ought to write a version of scp that has exactly the same interface as FTP (but none of the network protocol) and then we could invisibly swap it out and have done with this most horrible bodge of a protocol...
We tried that recently. Actually with current OpenSSH implementations and the sftp subsystem, there is a way to replace FTP. F-Secure sells a really fine Windows client for drag&drop file transfer over sftp connections. It's part of the F-Secure SSH2 product. The downside: at the moment I haven't found a way to use it as an actual replacement for FTP on our webserver. Customers updating their virtual servers' htdocs directory are chrooted inside their part of the filessystem tree. I haven't found a way to achieve this with sftp: simple chroot and _no_ shell access. Regards, Patrick M. Hausen Technical Director -- punkt.de GmbH Internet - Dienstleistungen - Beratung Scheffelstr. 17 a Tel. 0721 9109 -0 Fax: -100 76135 Karlsruhe http://punkt.de _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () nfr com http://list.nfr.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: The yearly FTP rant (Was: Re: Passive FTP and NAT/PAT with PIX and Serv-U) Mikael Olsson (Apr 06)
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