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RE: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe)


From: "Scott, Richard" <Richard.Scott () BestBuy com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:19:13 -0500

<snip>

I would love for god to give me the all in one product
to secure my IT, and finally spare me some time for
the things like sand and beach and... But sadly one
has to think hard and build it from building blocks.
<snip>

Ok this is my last two cents.  Reading the threads, it seems that people
were focused on applying their effort fixing the problem.  The main culprit
for buffer overflows is poor engineering.  I think people forget that when
we get down to it, we are scientists, playing with and engineering with many
components.  However, I see many developers and network admins who are all
clobbered.  That is, business drives the market that drives the production
of software.  This consumable has no regulatory in effect, and hence is very
similar to building buildings, cars, or anything else with out following
engineering standards and legal laws.

Contracts, do not prevent such errors in engineering.  The reason why this
is case is that contracts do not enforce good practice when dealing with
software.  If the software isn't good in many contracts, the money is not
paid on the next quarter's license.

Engineering standards should be made and people should expect that this
qualification should be a must.  If a developer goes against such standards,
they could be fired, or released.  This would then make for a volatile
market, and real developers would get paid decent money, whilst the cowboys
would not.  Take Doctors as a sample.  Any doctor going against medical
opinion, that is published and adhere to, can be sued.  Malpractice is a
better word for it.  The same should apply to engineers of software, just
like engineers of buildings, airplanes and space shuttles.  The problem
often seen is that low grade employment is used to produce a high quality
product.  Joe Bloggs with his Visual Monkey ++ Certification and Mickey
Mouse with his PHd in Business therapy have been drafted in by consulting
companies to produce critical code.  You can't do this in any other industry
for which legislation can be made for malpractice.

Cheers
r.

Richard Scott   
Information Security
? Best Buy World Headquarters
7075 Flying Cloud Drive
Eden Prairie, MN 55344 USA
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