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Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe)
From: Darren Reed <darrenr () reed wattle id au>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:17:08 +1000 (EST)
In some email I received from Joseph Steinberg, sie wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly that we do need to come up with a better way of addressing these issues than patching every specific vulnerability. Our e-Gap systems do this with positive logic -- i.e., enforcing that web-servers/applications only receive requests in formats that the web-servers/apps expect. So, worm attacks, hacker attacks, etc. (which are generally based on unexpected submissions) fail -- regardless of whether the particular hack is known to our product or not. I am curious how others deal with this.
[...] How about making it a felony to sell or otherwise provide software for commercial use that contains buffer overflows ? Or make it something you cannot "disclaim" - it should be part of the exercising of due diligence every software company has to get them out of software before releasing it. I'm actually half serious about this. It's time to start raising the bar. How much does it cost the world to patch these problems up vs the developer to put in place proper testing to find and eliminate these problems before it goes out the door? How can we allow such a critical piece of modern life to be such a pile of rubbish? The frightening thing is if you look from the embedded market all the way up to super computers, there are no exceptions in the "has a buffer overflow security hole" category. Darren p.s. this is all rant. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () nfr com http://list.nfr.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Joseph Steinberg (Aug 06)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention inwarnings(Frank Knobbe) Paul Cardon (Aug 07)
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- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention inwarnings(Frank Knobbe) Paul Cardon (Aug 07)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Darren Reed (Aug 07)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 07)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Damir Rajnovic (Aug 07)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Adam Shostack (Aug 07)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Darren Reed (Aug 07)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Adam Shostack (Aug 07)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Darren Reed (Aug 07)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Predrag Zivic (Aug 10)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Adam Shostack (Aug 11)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Adam Shostack (Aug 10)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) Marcus J. Ranum (Aug 07)
- Re: Re: Code Red: What security specialist don't mention in warnings(Frank Knobbe) R. DuFresne (Aug 08)