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Re: Killing Napster and beyond...
From: Darren Reed <darrenr () reed wattle id au>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:55:14 +1100 (EST)
In some email I received from Brad Van Orden, sie wrote:
Vern Paxson wrote:Technology should not be used to manage people's behavior.Um, so why do we bother with firewalls?Firewalls are to protect you from those Bozos that are not under your control.
That's a rather limited way of looking at them. How about this for a high level definition of firewall: firewall: means for enforcing a policy of operation between two networks. Note: I don't say security policy. As for technology and people behaving bad...the uselessness of attempting to do this is best embodied by the constant struggle that is in place on the various large IRC chat networks between the people who run them and those who think DDoS, etc, is fun. You can't use technology to solve social problems otherwise we'd have ridden ourselves of politicians and lawyers already ;-) But solving a problem is different to managing it...and I'd argue that technology can be used to limit people's behavour (which is what the current range of firewall products do) but I think "manage" is the wrong word to use here, short of chip implants. Darren _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () nfr com http://www.nfr.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond..., (continued)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Alan Young (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Robert Collins (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... spiff (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Joseph S D Yao (Oct 23)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... David Hassilev (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Andy Wigglesworth (Oct 27)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Jürgen Nieveler (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Harris, Tim (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Vern Paxson (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Brad Van Orden (Oct 19)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Darren Reed (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... R. DuFresne (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... John McDermott (Oct 20)
- Re: Killing Napster and beyond... Brad Van Orden (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Zarcone, Christopher (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Barry Dykes (Oct 20)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... David O'Shea (Oct 20)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Henry Sieff (Oct 19)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Dave Costello (Oct 20)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Harris, Tim (Oct 20)
- RE: Reducing Napster and beyond... Jonn Martell (Oct 23)
- RE: Killing Napster and beyond... Delmer Harris (Oct 20)
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