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Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal
From: HASSAN.KARIM () chase com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:24:37 -0500
I'd actually be interested in talking to ANY security vendor who did not exagerate!!! The problem that I see is that integrity should be a basis for making decisions. However, there is not a SINGLE vendor that I've spoken to that I feel has presented 100% honesty. I think this is the problem with Marketing folx in general. So what does this reduce us to..... only trusting the products once we've evaluated them. People will be people, but the proof is in the product. Just my thoughts -Hassan "Waszak, Tom" <Tom.Waszak @ connect.xerox.com> on 11/09/98 06:43:37 PM Please respond to "Waszak, Tom" <Tom.Waszak () connect xerox com> To: firewall-wizards @ nfr.net cc: (bcc: Hassan Karim/CHASE) Subject: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal *Note: I do not work for any security product vendors. Also note that these are my opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of my employer Xerox Connect* The LAN Times and Data Communications sponsored "Best of Show Networld + Interop '98" has been a major marketing coup for NAI. If you read their press release (http://www.nai.com/about/news/press/1998/october/102898.asp <http://www.nai.com/about/news/press/1998/october/102898.asp> ) it would lead you to believe that they actually won the Best of Show Award in the "Network Security and IP Tools" category. It is nothing more than a wonderful example of creative writing and word play. The fact is Gauntlet came in fourth. If you don't read the article very carefully you would think they won the award. I don't consider fourth place winning. I mean no one says "I won fourth place in the track meet today". Do they? That's not even a Bronze Medal in the Olympics. If there was a fourth place medal, maybe NAI would win the "Lead Medal", or perhaps the "Recycled Aluminum Medal" is more fitting considering NAI has repackaged old technology to make it appear new and cutting edge. The thing that really chafes my buzz is that at least two NAI personnel, a regional channel manager and a territory manager, told me (on more than one occasion) that they won the award for their adaptive proxy development. (which they told me they were in the process of getting a patent) Here is the real deal on NAI "winning" Best of Show at "Networld + Interop '98" per "Data Communications" (one of the sponsors): Results: http://www.data.com/datacomm/best98.html <http://www.data.com/datacomm/best98.html> "Internet Devices' Fort Knox VPN engine" won the "Best of Show Network Security and IP Tools" category. Finalists: http://www.data.com/datacomm/best98_extra.html <http://www.data.com/datacomm/best98_extra.html> Gauntlet came in fourth. I have contact with all the major firewall vendors. All are prone to slight exaggeration about their products. It's the nature of the business. However, I have noticed that NAI has developed a pattern that really makes me wonder whether or not they....well I won't say...draw your own conclusions. I will say this: Integrity is important in any vendor relationship. I need to know that the people I talk to are telling me the truth and can call a spade a spade. If a vendor can't do that I don't want to deal with him or her. Hmmm...I wonder how many NAI product recommendations I'll make in the future? Here's something you could do if your really bored...call your local NAI rep and ask them if Gauntlet won best of show. Thomas Waszak, CCP Principal Consultant Information Security Practice Xerox Connect
Current thread:
- NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Waszak, Tom (Nov 10)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Joseph S D Yao (Nov 10)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Christopher Nicholls (Nov 11)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Andy Smith (Nov 11)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Frederick M Avolio (Nov 11)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Waszak, Tom (Nov 10)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Joseph S D Yao (Nov 11)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal HASSAN . KARIM (Nov 11)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal cbrenton (Nov 11)
- RE: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Waszak, Tom (Nov 11)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Dale Lancaster (Nov 12)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Frederick M Avolio (Nov 12)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Dale Lancaster (Nov 12)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Frederick M Avolio (Nov 12)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Paul D. Robertson (Nov 12)
- Re: NAI Guantlet "Best of Show Award" The Real Deal Frederick M Avolio (Nov 12)