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Re: What about Traffic Analysis?
From: Ted Doty <ted () iss net>
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 09:01:00 -0400
At 03:28 PM 8/6/98 -0400, Adam Shostack wrote:
What about performing traffic analysis on the mail flow? Catching information by spikes in the places people send mail? Sending files to the competition? Is this worthwhile? (Assume trapping messages that hit some threshold.)
Traffic Analysis is still more art than science. This doesn't mean that much of it couldn't be captured in automated tools, but the cost of using the tools will be high - lots of analysis and lots of false positives. This is why it's mainly governments that use TA (they can stand the cost).
In a talk at Defcon this weekend, someone made the comment that sending pictures of giraffes to your freinds is calling attention to yourself, regardless of the ability of the screener to find the stego'd encrypted message in the picture.
Presumably you'd have more of a clue than to send random pix of Barney the Dinosaur. Even the random "You'll never believe THIS (I heard it on the Internet)" that I get from all my Internet-newbie friends has lots of bandwidth for hidden messages. This is a classic covert channel analysis problem. Trying to block covert channels in an Internet world will make your hair fall out. - Ted ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Doty, Internet Security Systems | Phone: +1 678 443-6000 6600 Peachtree Dunwoody Road, 300 Embassy Row | Fax: +1 678 443-6479 Atlanta, GA 30328 USA | Web: http://www.iss.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP key fingerprint: 362A EAC7 9E08 1689 FD0F E625 D525 E1BE
Current thread:
- What about Traffic Analysis? Adam Shostack (Aug 06)
- Re: What about Traffic Analysis? Bennett Todd (Aug 07)
- Re: What about Traffic Analysis? Ted Doty (Aug 07)
- Re: What about Traffic Analysis? Henry Hertz Hobbit (Aug 07)
- Re: What about Traffic Analysis? Ted Doty (Aug 07)
- Re: What about Traffic Analysis? Adam Shostack (Aug 07)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: What about Traffic Analysis? Ryan Russell (Aug 07)
- Re: What about Traffic Analysis? Stephen P. Berry (Aug 07)
- RE: What about Traffic Analysis? Jeff Sedayao (Aug 07)
- RE: What about Traffic Analysis? Peter Mayne (Aug 11)
- Re: What about Traffic Analysis? Bennett Todd (Aug 07)