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R: strong encryption for Europeans


From: "Franco RUGGIERI" <fruggieri () selfin net>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:09:55 +0100

Recently (June and October this year), attacks have been successfully
accomplished against DES and RC5 65 bit, by a huge number of computers
coordinated via Internet. Since participation in such effort was voluntary,
I wouldn't define such coordination as *strict*. Thus, we can assume that a
well determined organization would break codes based on keys up to 56 bit
in a reasonable amount of time. Therefore I wouldn't recommend VPNs based
on such systems (RCx, DES and the likes with *short*keys), unless for what
I would dub *minor areas* and for not long lasting applications.
This, of course, IMHO. I would appreciate comments (not flames!) on this
viewpoint of mine.
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Franco RUGGIERI
fruggieri () selfin net

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Da: Martin W Freiss <freiss.pad () sni de>
A: kate () forsys msk ru
Cc: firewalls () GreatCircle COM; firewall-wizards () nfr net
Oggetto: Re: strong encryption for Europeans
Data: martedì 28 ottobre 1997 16.42

Hi,

I would like to know which options are available to Europeans with
regard
to strong encryption VPNs. It appears that most of well known firewall
vendors are US companies and their VPNs are subjects to US law export 
restrictions.

well, there are European firewall solutions, though they seem to be less
well known. Check http://www.swn.sni.be for one solution that does
not suffer from US export restrictions. Choice of RC4 and IDEA for VPN,
up
to 128 bits. (Disclaimer: I work for that company, which makes me
biased, so I will not compare this to other products here).

Another question: how strong is Check Point's FWZ1 ? What is its key 
length ? Are there any estimates as to how breakable it is ? Our local
FW-1 
reseller could not enlighten me in the matter. 

48 Bits for the encryption, if I remember correctly. Not knowing
anything more about FWZ1, I won't hazard a guess as to the breakability
:)

Best regards,

-Martin

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 Siemens Nixdorf, CC IT Networks, Solution Team Internet/Intranet
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