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Re: [External] Re: [SECURITY] Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency(CISA) Cyber Hygiene scan services


From: David Allen <allendp () PLU EDU>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 16:00:46 -0700

Thanks to both Valerie & Heather for the clarification.  I had done a quick
search of each of the sectors for "education", but had no hits until I
expanded the Sector Overview section as Heather instructed.  Serves me
right for not just using the search function on their site.  Though, based
on a couple of other emails I received directly I'm glad I asked since it
appears to have been a common point of confusion.

Thanks again everyone!

-David A.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 7:11 AM Chester, Heather <htomley () luc edu> wrote:

David,

Good question.  I believe Higher Ed is under the Government Facilities
sector / Education Facilities Subsector
https://www.cisa.gov/government-facilities-sector.  Once you open this
page, go to Sector Overview, “The Education Facilities Subsector covers
pre-kindergarten through 12th grade schools, institutions of higher
education, and business and trade schools. The subsector includes
facilities that are owned by both government and private sector entities”.



Heather



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Infrastructure Security Agency(CISA) Cyber Hygiene scan services



We have some interest in signing up with the CISA service as well, but got
hung up on the question on the service application form that asks "Which
Critical Infrastructure Sector does your organization most closely align
with?"  Is there any consensus which option should be selected?  Doing a
quick review of the option and descriptions (
https://www.cisa.gov/critical-infrastructure-sectors) did not provide an
obvious choice for us.



-David A.



On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:44 AM Thomas Dugas <dugast () duq edu> wrote:

We’ve used this service for years now. I concur, they won’t be looking at
anything that people scanning your network for vulnerabilities aren’t doing
already. The difference is they actually tell you that you have an issue
instead of exploiting the risk. It does hold a bit more weight as well when
I’ve had to go to third-party service providers to tell them their service
has a vulnerability on our network.



Foreign nation states are doing this to our networks already. At least I
feel that Homeland Security is looking out for our better interests.



Tom Dugas

Dugast () duq edu

AVP/CISO

Duquesne University



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*Subject:* [External] Re: [SECURITY] Cybersecurity and Infrastructure
Security Agency(CISA) Cyber Hygiene scan services



There are other free services that can provide potential vulnerability
information from an external perspective, such as ShadowServer
https://www.shadowserver.org/
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The Shadowserver Foundation
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The Shadowserver Foundation is a nonprofit security organization working
altruistically behind the scenes to make the Internet more secure for
everyone.

www.shadowserver.org





--Ken




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*Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security
Agency(CISA) Cyber Hygiene scan services



I think the feds are our side.





On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 10:09 AM Ken Connelly <ken.connelly () uni edu> wrote:

THIS!!

Plus my general paranoia about giving the feds permission to do this. Not
that they can't/couldn't/wouldn't do it anyway, but if I say "ok", then I
said "ok" and they have permission.

-ken

On 9/3/21 9:03 AM, Koppel, Lorna wrote:

Hi Everyone,



I too am interested in trying their services.  I ran into concerns from
legal and others about the perception of having a government agency looking
at our network especially with people being nervous about immigration.
Anyone else dealt with that?



Thanks,

Lorna



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Tufts University
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*Subject:* Re: [SECURITY] Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security
Agency(CISA) Cyber Hygiene scan services



Hi Vince,



We've used it for almost a year now and we really like it. It's
essentially just Nessus but they send a weekly pdf report with good info,
charts, and graphs (the original Nessus data is embedded as an attachment
in the appendix too). I've used their graphs in reports to management. And
being able to say "DHS says this is a critical vulnerability" has helped
get people to act a little quicker with remediations than they may have
otherwise. ;)



Also they send an annual report of aggregated, anonymized vuln data from
across higher ed so that you can see how your institution compares against
the average.



Let me know if you have other questions or there's anything else I can
help with regarding this topic.



Thanks,

Val


Valerie Smith, CISSP (she/her)

Sr. Information Security Analyst

SUNY Geneseo

vsmith () geneseo edu





On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:43 AM Vince Bonura <vbonura () fordham edu> wrote:

Good morning, All!



I am writing to inquire whether anyone is taking advantage of the
Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency(CISA) Cyber Hygiene scan
services?



We became aware of it recently and are considering signing up. Since it’s
a free service, and another way to test the vulnerabilities of your
publicly accessible networks, it seems like a no-brainer.



But we are curious who is/has used it and what you thought of their
findings.



Thanks in advance!



Vince Bonura

IT Risk Analyst



Fordham University

(718) 817-1875

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