Re: [BULK] Re: [SECURITY] Microsoft Defender ATP

[Curt Kappenman <ckappenman () ANDERSONUNIVERSITY EDU>]

I know that I am late to this discussion.  We use Cylance Protect and Cylance Optics.  I know for many the issue is 
price but I think it is well worth it.  Our main security vendor did a penetration test against the top 10 AV products. 
 They said the best one of the group was Microsoft ATP (the one that is part of the A5 license) followed very closely 
by Cylance Protect with Optics.  If you are open to look at other products, I would suggest taking a look at the 
Cylance product line as well.


Curt Kappenman
Security Compliance Officer
Anderson University
Anderson, SC

On 3/12/20, 2:55 PM, "The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv on behalf of Kimmitt, Jonathan" <SECURITY () 
LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU on behalf of jonathan-kimmitt () UTULSA EDU> wrote:

    For what its worth... I've been on several conference panels in the last year with different pentesters (red team 
vs blueteam type thing), and they have a general consensus that they hate trying to pentest organizations with 
Microsoft ATP....  That its pretty hard to get past....
    
    Instead they focus on phishing and social engineering, instead of trying to get in at the network/system level..... 
 
    
    -Jonathan
    
    
    
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    Considering the same, however Defender was quite underwhelming by itself.  With ATP Gartner has showed a huge 
turnaround in Microsoft's position in the quadrant in the last year or two.  We're still digging into why that is.  Is 
their AI really that much better in terms of detection and response? Is it just the way Gartner's formulas work for 
ranking?   We have a multilayered approach we're evaluating currently, but I'm as interested in the answer to these 
questions as anyone.
    
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    We are migrating f/staff to O365 later this year. We will also be setting up InTune. After, we will start to look 
at the potential for ATP to replace our AV.
    
    Ronald King
    Director of Technical Services and OIT Security
     
    Office of Information Technology
    (757) 823-2916 (Office)
    raking () nsu edu
    
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    We are also moving in this direction.  It seems like Defender has caught up and will reduce our spend.
    
    Thanks,
    ep
    
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    From: "Watkins, Jameson" <jmwatkins () PNWU EDU>
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    Subject: [SECURITY] Microsoft Defender ATP
    
    Hi all,
    
    Our Sophos anti-virus licenses are up for renewal this summer and we're reviewing the landscape. We've landed on 
looking at MS Defender ATP. It's ranked highly in the Gartner magic quadrant and reviews we've seen are favorable. The 
cost for us to move to the security option of the A5 license tier, when combined with everything else offered, makes it 
a hard deal to pass up.
    
    But I've not seen a peep out of customers using it, especially in higher ed. Is anyone using it? What are we 
missing?
    
    We also haven't seen details on how it handles ransomware. Sophos has a crypto guard that stops files from 
encrypting which has saved us at least once. Anyone have more info on how Defender handles it?
    
    Finally and more broadly, does anyone have advice on how you actually test endpoint detection without using live 
viruses?
    
    Thanks.
    
    
    Jameson Watkins
    Chief Information Officer
    Pacific Northwest University of Health Sciences
    509.249.7719
    
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