Re: HECVAT Users List

["Penn, Blake C" <blake.penn () SECURITY GATECH EDU>]

You could always review the spreadsheet upon receipt and convert the responses to some numerical rating or the like and 
then destroy the original in cases like this.  That way only the scores could be FOIAed.

Regards,

Blake Penn
Information Security Policy and Compliance Manager
Cyber Security
Georgia Institute of Technology
(404) 385-5480

From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Theresa 
Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 13:06
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] HECVAT Users List

We've hit a stumbling block on asking vendors to issue a security statement or spreadsheet like this as we received an 
interpretation that as a public university, any vendor response received in the bid process could be requested under 
FOIA and the open public bids process. If they said they wouldn't allow sharing, we couldn't guarantee that the 
response would not be shared. We started telling vendors this, and they quit agreeing to submit anything.  We try to 
get at this review later and not part of the procurement process.

Theresa

Theresa Rowe
Chief Information Officer
Oakland University


On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Gregg, Christopher S. <csgregg () stthomas edu<mailto:csgregg () stthomas edu>> wrote:
We use our own set of standard questions currently but I am trying to move us to using the HECVAT.  For those who 
started to use the HECVAT, I am wondering if you have developed criteria for when to use it and when to use something 
even lighter than the lite version?  For example, are you tying the use of the tool to specific cost ranges or data 
security classifications used by the solution in question?

I ask because my team (contracts, acquisition and budget fall in my area as well) is concerned that even the lite 
version will be onerous to apply to all cloud acquisitions.

Thanks,

Chris


Chris Gregg
Associate Vice President of Information Security & Risk Management, CISO
Information Technology Services (ITS)
csgregg () stthomas edu<mailto:csgregg () stthomas edu>
p 1 (651) 962-6265
University of St. Thomas | stthomas.edu<https://www.stthomas.edu>



From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () 
LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>] On Behalf Of Brian T. Huntley
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:41 AM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] HECVAT Users List

We started using the HECVAT late in 2017 as well.

We've incorporated it into the purchasing process, so a PO cannot be issued until we're satisfied with the responses.  
This gets us in at the ground floor for new contracts and enables us to insert ourselves in renewals of existing 
contracts.

So far, we've had occasion for three vendors to do it.  Based on the type of data we were sharing with them, the Lite 
version seemed most appropriate.  One vendor already had one done, the other two had never heard of it and took a 
couple of weeks to complete it but didn't really complain about the process.

None of them were willing to have their completed HECVAT's nor their willingness to provide a completed HECVAT shared.

Brian



Brian T. Huntley, CISSP
Director of Network Services and Information Security
Office of Information Technology
Clarkson University
315.268.6723

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 8:46 PM, Ken Connelly <ken.connelly () uni edu<mailto:ken.connelly () uni edu>> wrote:
In general, are you (collective you, not just Mark) using the full-blown
HECVAT or the HECVAT Lite?

- ken

On 2/21/18 4:29 PM, Mark Dieterich wrote:
> We've been telling vendors that EDU customers are adopting this, but
> haven't had a sense of how widespread the adoption has been. I got the
> green light have Brown listed, so we will be adding our name to the list.
>
> When this first came about, there was discussion on developing a
> sharing platform where completed HECVATS or the fact that a vendor has
> filled out a HECVAT, depending on their wishes, could be listed. Are
> there any developments with this? I think we actually have one vendor
> who indicated we could share and a few that gave us permission to list
> them, it would be great if we could actually do something with these.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Allen, Jon <Jon_Allen () baylor edu<mailto:Jon_Allen () baylor edu>
> <mailto:Jon_Allen () baylor edu<mailto:Jon_Allen () baylor edu>>> wrote:
>
>     Hello!
>
>
>
>     The 2019 Higher Education Cloud Vendor Assessment Tool (HECVAT)
>     working group is devoting effort to getting the word out about
>     institutional HECVAT adoption.  We want to create a list of
>     institutions that are using the HECVAT to publish on the HECVAT
>     web page
>     
> (https://library.educause.edu/resources/2016/10/higher-education-cloud-vendor-assessment-tool<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flibrary.educause.edu%2Fresources%2F2016%2F10%2Fhigher-education-cloud-vendor-assessment-tool&data=02%7C01%7Ccsgregg%40STTHOMAS.EDU%7Cb2776680113247fa9be908d579e93bb6%7Ca081ff79318c45ec95f338ebc2801472%7C1%7C0%7C636548965020060290&sdata=Pli%2F5nnEvAR0%2Bltu5pIHBVqzJypA0jXs1wFDd7cDMVc%3D&reserved=0><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fq%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Flibrary.educause.edu%2Fresources%2F2016%2F10%2Fhigher-education-cloud-vendor-assessment-tool%26sa%3DD%26ust%3D1519160086542000%26usg%3DAFQjCNHtq6sVc7M6Yijyrp-FyIIhP7-g3A&data=01%7C01%7Cjon_allen%40baylor.edu%7C2f31c9f2ae8048feb12908d5789c6998%7C22d2fb35256a459bbcf4dc23d42dc0a4%7C1&sdata=xWyOTuLEnGCCgx273bRaeoOn%2FF5jzLxFimJ28wRO8BQ%3D&reserved=0>).
>     The purpose of this list is two-fold: First, to demonstrate HECVAT
>     adoption at higher education institutions (so that vendors will
>     want to participate in completing a HECVAT). Second, to provide a
>     list of HECVAT references (so that institutions can contact their
>     peers with HECVAT questions). If you are interested in being
>     listed on the webpage in this manner, please fill out this form.
>     Institutional names only (not contact information) will be listed
>     on the webpage.
>
>
>
>     If you would like your institution to be listed in this way,
>     please complete our form:
>
>
>
>     
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>     *Assistant Vice President & *
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>     *Baylor University *
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