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Re: Kronos + Java


From: David Grisham <Dgrisham () SALUD UNM EDU>
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:46:51 -0600

I replied to David separately and will be putting in a ticket on the issue. However, We worked through this issue by 
only allowing Kronos connections through Citrix.  This allows the desktops to receive the latest version of Java with 
security fixes while limiting our risk to one or two Citrix servers.  We also limit access to the Citrix servers from 
within the organization and have the ability to remove the Citrix server and rebuild quickly if a risk comes to 
infection.
-- -- Not perfect. But we have to have the product right now with the outdated Java.


Cheers --grish
David D. Grisham
David Grisham, Ph.D.,  CISM, CRISC
Manager, IT Security,
UNM Hospitals, IT Division
Suite 3131
933 Bradbury Drive, SE


Steve Brukbacher <sab2 () UWM EDU> 4/11/2012 11:55 AM >>>
We were never able to really solve this problem either.  We don't use 
Kronos any longer (thank goodness).  It was very disappointing that the 
vendor did not do their part to help us keep our community secure.


-- 
Steve Brukbacher, CISSP
Information Security Officer
University of Wisconsin Milwaukee
Information Security Team
www.security.uwm.edu 
Direct Phone: 414.229.2224
Security Office: 414.229.1100

On 4/11/12 10:39 AM, David Shettler wrote:
We are encountering a series of problems with our timecards vendor
Kronos and Oracle's latest Java release.


Java 1.6_31 causes sporadic problems in Kronos. Kronos support has
proposed the solution that we down-rev java on client workstations until
they release their new version which will happen "soon". 1.6_31 has been
out since February. We're not willing to put hundreds of Kronos users'
at risk by down-reving Java given the prevalence of malware exploiting
earlier versions on the web, we've been struggling to do just the
opposite since February, but even if we were: Firefox has blocklisted
any earlier versions, and Apple has deployed 1.6_31 to counter new
mac-malware.


Are other Kronos users experiencing this issue? Are you permitting
down-reving of java? Are you applying pressure on Kronos? We're hitting
a brick wall with them, and their proposed solution seems archaic.


Thank you kindly,


David Shettler

Information Security Officer

College of the Holy Cross


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