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Re: Dynamic Internet Bandwidth Allocation
From: Josh Richard <jrichar4 () D UMN EDU>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 08:45:49 -0600
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Miller,James R <millerj () uakron edu> wrote:
Without too much study so far, it appears that our Exinda traffic shaping appliance may be capable of achieving this with virtual circuits and scheduling. Is there anyone out there doing this currently, and if so would you mind sharing what equipment or software you are using to do this?
We are not using the Exinda product but have used other commercial products in the past with mixed success. I see Jeff mentioning Procera, that was one of the evaluated products. +1 to that, the product looked very interesting, had good reporting and for most installations could work well. There is a good article on a different approach... http://www.educause.edu/EDUCAUSE+Quarterly/EDUCAUSEQuarterlyMagazineVolum/DirectingTrafficManagingIntern/163105 which should be read while we check our stance on this issue. For us, we rate limit our guest wireless network using a number of GNU/Linux machines running surprisingly simple scripts written in tcng. To address the hogs during peak times (always), we were able to enhance the policy by using SFQ (stochastic fairness queuing) which is a congestion control algorithm that works like this: http://opalsoft.net/qos/DS-25.htm SFQ has worked very well to allow for youtube/netflix use when the rate limit is imposed. This does not exactly address the BT hogs which are dealt with by other expensive detection and policy enforcement measures but it greatly reduces the impact of the hogs by fairly allowing time per flow (as some may recall BT makes a lot of flows). We have never had a complaint on this system due to latency. Most commercial products implement some type of congestion control (WRED, BROWN, or more intelligent timers). The sky is really the limit. Do you need more bandwidth? Sure we all do, but would you be better off ramping up your capacities to support future growth? For the past 2 yrs, we have been able to just barely stay ahead of the burden. In our area of the planet, high speed links and bandwidth costs are dropping and a 10G circuit is very reasonably priced. Getting higher up approval for additional bandwidth has been an easier case to make given this institution's migration to Google aps and the shift to higher bandwidth material to support teaching and learning. This problem is full of sharp edges. Not the least of which is the argument we should manage the resource and have that resource remain available. Recall Comcast's lawsuit over approaching a solution to this problem in much the same way we did in the past and may still. Here is the initial complaint: http://www.freepress.net/docs/fp_pk_comcast_complaint.pdf Regards, Josh -- Josh Richard Information Technology Systems & Services University of Minnesota Duluth
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- Dynamic Internet Bandwidth Allocation Miller,James R (Feb 01)
- Re: Dynamic Internet Bandwidth Allocation Jeff Kell (Feb 01)
- Re: Dynamic Internet Bandwidth Allocation Josh Richard (Feb 01)
- Re: Dynamic Internet Bandwidth Allocation Gary Flynn (Feb 01)
- Re: Dynamic Internet Bandwidth Allocation Christopher R Mielke (Feb 01)