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Re: Google announces privacy changes, no opt out for users


From: "Manjak, Martin" <mmanjak () ALBANY EDU>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:12:24 +0000

Larry,

I just disabled the port in NetDisco. I haven't checked yet, but I suspect the registration does not have a NetID tied 
to it, only a dept affiliation, and that's why it doesn't show up.

Martin Manjak
Information Security Officer
University at Albany
Via OWA
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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] on behalf of Guy Almes 
[galmes () TAMU EDU]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Google announces privacy changes, no opt out for users

Dave et al.,
   And, with a view to the best interests of our students, it does not
help them if our university "contracts" protect them while they are
students but then get them (per the basic idea of Google's outreach to
the university community) deeply enmeshed with Google with negative
implications for the rest of their lives.
        -- Guy

On 1/27/12 9:16 AM, David C Kovarik wrote:
Contracts expire... are the privacy terms negotiable?
Dave Kovarik
Northwestern University
847-467-5930


-----Original Message-----
From: H Morrow Long<morrow.long () YALE EDU>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:06:03 -0500
To:<SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Google announces privacy changes, no opt out for
users

Google's new privacy change will apparently not affect Education,
Government nor Enterprise business customers (at least not right away
anyway).
As long as we have current contracts.

[
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9223753/Google_says_privacy_change_
won_t_affect_government_users?source=CTWNLE_nlt_security_2012-01-27&utm_so
urce=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+computerworld%2Fs%2Ff
eed%2Ftopic%2F84+%28Computerworld+Privacy+News%29 ]

Google says privacy change won't affect government users

Company downplays privacy, security concerns from former federal IT
official

By Jaikumar Vijayan
January 26, 2012 05:02 PM ET
1 Comment

Computerworld - Google today dismissed concerns by a former senior
federal IT official that the company's controversial new privacy policy
would create problems for customers of Google Apps for Government (GAFG).

In a statement, Google said the new policy will not change existing
contracts that define how it handles and stores data belonging to
government users of its cloud services. "Enterprise customers using
Google Apps for Government, Business or Education have individual
contracts that define how we handle and store their data," Amit Singh,
vice president of Google Enterprise said in a statement.

"As always, Google will maintain our enterprise customers' data in
compliance with the confidentiality and security obligations provided to
their domain," he said.

According to Singh, Google?s contractual agreements have always
superseded its privacy policy for enterprise customers.


On Jan 26, 2012, at 1:11 PM, H Morrow Long wrote:

I think we need to hear from Google.

Part of the rationale for the current change is that Google wants to
reduce the # of different privacy policies they have (for different
products).

Morrow


On Jan 26, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Jesse Thompson wrote:

I don't see any indication that the changes to the generic policy are
trumped by the edu-apps policy.  But, I'm no lawyer.

http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/edu/privacy.html

Jesse

On 1/26/12 11:08 AM, Joel Rosenblatt wrote:
I asked the question also and was told (not by google) that this only
applies to their consumer apps, not core Google Apps for Edu

Have you contacted google to confirm this?

Joel

--On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:56 PM -0500 Morrow Long
<morrow.long () YALE EDU>  wrote:

Read it&  trying to determine what this means for Yale.

We outsource many of our studen

Sent from my iPhonet email accts to Google now (though our branded
gmail does not have Google targeted ads shown alongside the
messages).

Morrow

On Jan 25, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Nicole Kegler<nk278 () georgetown edu>
wrote:

Has anyone read this article about the privacy changes being
implemented by Google starting March 1? What are your thoughts?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/google-tracks-consumer
s-across-products-users-cant-opt-out/2012/01/24/gIQArgJHOQ_story.html
?hpid=z3


--
Nicole Kegler
Communications Manager
University Information Security Office
Georgetown University
202-687-5784

Protecting data is a shared responsibility!

INSTALL antivirus and antispyware software.
USE strong passwords.
KNOW who you are dealing with online.
STORE confidential and sensitive data on encrypted devices only.
SHUT DOWN computers or disconnect from the Internet when it's not in
use.




Joel Rosenblatt, Manager Network&  Computer Security
Columbia Information Security Office (CISO)
Columbia University, 612 W 115th Street, NY, NY 10025 / 212 854 3033
http://www.columbia.edu/~joel
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