Educause Security Discussion mailing list archives
Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings?
From: John Hoffoss <John.Hoffoss () CSU MNSCU EDU>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 13:33:39 -0500
On Wed, May 9, 2007 at 12:30 PM, Cal Frye <cjf () CALFRYE COM> wrote:Tristan RHODES wrote:I do not like the high- level of maintenance in [assigning VLANs by policy]. For example, when people move or if their roles change how will we be notified so that we can change their VLAN?
If people move, you could be notified the same way you are when you show up to move their PC and phone. Otherwise, as another person pointed out, a jack in a department stays in that department, even when the user moves/leaves.
I prefer the location based segmentation due to its simplicity. To provide security segmentation, something like NAC + Mcafee EPO can be used to enforce firewall policies on end- hosts.
Location-based VLANs don't address one of the, IMO, primary reasons to segment your network in the first place: data classification & security. If you mix students/labs with departments that handle sensitive data, you risk compromising that security. By moving student file servers into student VLANs, and servers containing private data into departmental/controlled VLANs, you limit who *could* access that private data in the first place, which adds a layer above your file-server ACLs.
There are many advantages to one big flat LAN. How many of your users roam with laptops? Changing IP addresses every time they go up a floor, or to the classroom in the next building, is really rather obnoxious from the user's perspective.
Wireless should be a totally separate VLAN outside of any department or building, utilizing a VPN gateway or 802.1x and strong authentication to provide your users a secured path to sensitive data. -jth
Current thread:
- How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? Tristan RHODES (May 09)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? Julian Y. Koh (May 09)
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? David Gillett (May 09)
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? Cal Frye (May 09)
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? Lee Weers (May 09)
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? Br. Kenneth Arnold (May 09)
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? Bruce Curtis (May 09)
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? Rob Whalen (May 09)
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? Bruce Curtis (May 10)
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? John Hoffoss (May 16)
- Re: How do you implement VLAN segmentation in your buildings? Cal Frye (May 16)