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Re: Secure file transfers


From: scott hollatz <shollatz () D UMN EDU>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:19:02 -0500

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SFTP and SCP may suffer from bad passwords, but that's not a function of
those tools, but of users.  All password based systems are thus equally bad,
but that's absurd as PINs and passwords are the de facto user authentication
scheme no matter how much security gurus lambaste them.

SCP can be configured to only allow public key crypto logins, so it allows
for greater security.  Unlike FTP, SCP is secure end-to-end, including the
password handshake.

Yes, I forgot to add in my eariler response that we also offer scp and
rsync+ssh as part of the solution.

Also, vendors must be aware of the difference between FTP+SSL and a
secure file transfer protocol such as scp or sftp as part of SSH.
There's nothing worse than doing a bunch of firewall gymnastics due to
a miscommunication and telephone tag.

Of course, there are web services out there that allow for secure file
transfers (secure messaging and the like), but they cost money naturally.
The upside is you can do the transfers without requiring people have/use
SFTP/SCP, something few people would have available.  I've used Yozons and
found it worthwhile, but it's also password-based authentication, so if
that's the stumbling block, then you can forget it.

Harrold

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