Re: .edu.com domain

[Ken Connelly <Ken.Connelly () UNI EDU>]

no different than wxyz.edu.com and fubar.edu.com...

Cavender, Terry wrote:

> Try wwwiithaca.edu.com
>
> _________________________
> Terry Cavender, CISA
> Security Service Delivery Manager
> Information Technology Services
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Weeks [mailto:wweeks () ITHACA EDU]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:53 AM
> To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
> Subject: Re: [SECURITY] .edu.com domain
>
> I too experience the same thing. Yesterday I got their marketing site,
> today I get the server not found when attempting to access
> www.ithaca.edu.com site.
>
>
> Ken Connelly wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think they've made some sort of mass change.  At least everything
> > that I've tried has come back with a 404.
> >
> > - ken
> >
> > Sadler, Connie wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I received the same form letter yesterday - over a week after they
> > > removed Brown. I made one phone call and sent one email request. I
> > > believe they are answering a lot of phone calls, receiving a lot of
> > > email requests and now sending out a lot of these form letters. Isn't
> > > there a simpler way to take care of this?
> > >
> > > Connie J. Sadler, CM, CISSP, CISM, GIAC GSLC
> > > Director, IT Security, Brown University
> > > Box 1885, Providence, RI 02912
> > > Office: 401-863-7266
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Etherton [mailto:de2141 () COLUMBIA EDU] Sent: Thursday,
> > > April 06, 2006 8:15 AM
> > > To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [SECURITY] .edu.com domain
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > It is interesting that this came to the list-serv attention so quickly.
> > > We also requested cease and desist and got the same form letter as Mr.
> > > Bruce from Simmons.
> > >
> > > David Etherton
> > > Associate Director, Client Services
> > > Student Information Systems
> > > Columbia University
> > > 201 Philosophy Hall
> > > (office) 212-854-0651
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Bruce [mailto:david.bruce () SIMMONS EDU]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:14 PM
> > > To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [SECURITY] .edu.com domain
> > >
> > > Form letter.  I didn't raise any of these points.  I just asked them to
> > > take us off.
> > >
> > > Anyway we're off now... their response:
> > >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: "Brad Lohan" <brad () vantagemedia com>
> > > > Date: April 5, 2006 7:36:52 PM EDT
> > > > To: <david.bruce () simmons edu>
> > > > Cc: <mark () vantagemedia com>, <CVandenbosch () sheppardmullin com>,
> > > > <LBraun () sheppardmullin com>
> > > > Subject: Simmons.edu.com
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Bruce:
> > > >
> > > > This responds to your letter of March 24, 2006.  Contrary to your
> > > > assertion, Vantage Media has not registered any domain name that
> > > > incorporates your school's trademark.  Rather, we own a registration
> > > > for the edu.com domain.  If an individual voluntarily enters your
> > > > school's name in connection with our edu.com domain name, that
> > > > individual may access a domain subdirectory that is in turn used to
> > > > forward a bona fide inquiry to the requested institution.  The
> > > > subdirectory does not constitute a separate domain name, and it is
> > > > therefore not assignable to your school.
> > > >
> > > > To be clear, Vantage Media has not registered your trademark in any
> > > > form, it does not prevent anyone from obtaining bona fide
> > > > information about your school, and it does not falsely represent to
> > > > be affiliated with your institution.
> > > >
> > > > For these reasons, we disagree with the points raised in your letter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > However, in the interest of preserving Vantage Media's business
> > > > reputation, we have decided at this time to remove content from the
> > > > referenced subdirectory on our edu.com domain.  We trust that this
> > > > concludes the matter to your school's satisfaction.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Brad Lohan
> > > >
> > > > Brad Lohan  |  Analyst
> > > > p] 310.482.3737 | f] 310.943.1620
> > > > e] brad () vantagemedia com
> > >
> > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Dave Koontz wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Whoa, I just checked our domain on their site and it returns a
> > > > completely different school!  Our domain is mbc.edu - Mary Baldwin
> > > > College (http://www.mbc.edu), yet when I access http://mbc.edu.com
> > > > it returns "Morris Brown College" instead!  I wonder if Morris Brown
> > > > paid
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > these guys to get the mbc.edu.com address?  Should I turn this over to
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > our legal team or contact this questionable company?  Any tips on
> > > > how I should proceed would be appreciated!
> > > >
> > > > PS:  I've also noticed a very high number of 'spam' emails to our
> > > > students from this organization over the last few weeks.
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Dave Koontz
> > > > Associate Director CIS
> > > > Mary Baldwin College
> > > >
> > > > Walter Bourne wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It's possible to get 'off'.  Try
> > > > > <http://msu.edu.com/>
> > > > >
> > > > > Our Admissions and Counsel are doing a cease-and-desist.
> > > > >
> > > > > ==Walter Bourne
> > > > > Columbia University
> > > > > IT Security & Policy
> > > > >
> > > > > --On Wednesday, April 05, 2006 15:55 -0500 Graham Toal
> > > > > <gtoal () utpa edu>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > : > I do not know if they actually forward
> > > > > : > the information, it appears the primary purpose is to harvest
> > > > > : > information for marketing.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : More likely harvest leads to sell back to the Universities.
> > > > > : And I would imagine if you don't advertise with them,
> > > > > : some rival university will be prominent when someone
> > > > > : stumbles on their site looking for you.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Here's a good article on their business model:
> > > > > :
> > > > > : http://www.jayweintraub.com/2005/08/trends_report_a.html
> > > > > :
> > > > > : G
> > > --
> > > David Bruce                                          Phone: 617.521.2187
> > > Director of Networks and Servers                     Fax:   617.521.3082
> > > Simmons College, Technology
> > > 300 The Fenway, Boston, MA 02115-5898            david.bruce () simmons edu

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- Ken
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Ken Connelly             Associate Director, Security and Systems
ITS Network Services                  University of Northern Iowa
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