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Re: Outsourcing security scanning (internal and external)


From: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks () VT EDU>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:07:56 -0400

On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 01:00:39 PDT, Greg Francis said:
We are currently considering whether or not to outsource penetration
testing from off-campus such that testing will be done frequently
(monthly?) versus a periodic audit which we have already outsourced in the

Why is it "versus" as opposed to "in addition to"?

Both are needed, especially in today's environment.

past. We're also considering outsourcing the same functionality except on
the inside of the firewall.

You *definitely* want "inside the firewall", unless you are *positive* that
you have full control over everything that could connect to the network.

Otherwise, the first laptop that brings in a worm that uses a vulnerability
on a port/service that your firewall blocks will kill you....

At present, we do some scanning with NMAP and Nessus but there are
concerns from management that our efforts are inadequate and our
reliability is low. We are making improvements but I question how much we
should focus into that area if it's going to be outsourced anyway. Our CIO
thinks that outsourcing both tasks may be more cost effective and appease
management more.

You need to understand *why* management considers the efforts inadequate. Otherwise,
you have no metric to use to decide if the outsourcing does it any better.


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