Re: Cisco Clean Access & Impulse Point...

[Doug Sandford <dsandfor () SEEBECK UA EDU>]

I certainly appreciate the importance of the product and the
functionality. What I'm curious about is how schools with 25k + users
justified the cost? Educational price breaks aside, it still sounds
like a chunk of money....any comments?

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Impulse Point pricing is based on the number of users.

$27,500 for < 1000 users and $32,000 for < 2500. Annual maintenance charges are 20% of the original purchase cost.

Aaron M Gibbs
Interim Vice President/CIO
Center for Information Technology
St. Augustine's College
919-516-4379 (Office)
919-516-4382 (Fax)
amgibbs () st-aug edu
www.st-aug.edu

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From: Schmitt, Dianne [mailto:dschmitt () JJC EDU]
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What pricing do they offer, better than Clean Access?



Dianne Schmitt



Assoc VP Information Technology

Joliet Junior College

1215 Houbolt Rd.

Joliet, IL 60431-8938



Phone:  815.280.6641

Fax:  815.280.2668


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From: Gibbs, Aaron M. [mailto:AMGibbs () ST-AUG EDU]
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We're looking at implementing Impulses device. We looked at the Bradford Campus Manager, which has great functionality. 
However, Impulse Point also has great functionality that is similar to the Campus Manager coupled with a good price 
point. I'd be interested also in knowing others experiences with Impulse Point.



Aaron M Gibbs
Interim Vice President/CIO
Center for Information Technology
St. Augustine's College
919-516-4379 (Office)
919-516-4382 (Fax)
amgibbs () st-aug edu
www.st-aug.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Cole [mailto:mcole () CLARKU EDU]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 3:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Cisco Clean Access & Impulse Point...

FYI for the list:



    We've been using a product called Campus Manager to the past few years from Bradford networks, 
www.bradfordnetworks.com  they're a small start up in NH but they've been growing and have an awesome product that sits 
off line and is very flexible in what it can do based on what you want/need.  It does both network registration and 
remediation/quarantine functions.  It's worth looking into if your looking for a solution.  We've been very happy with 
it.



Mike



Michael A. Cole
Network Engineer, Information Technology Services
Clark University, Worcester MA  01610
508.793.7772
Mcole () clarku edu

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Anyone pilot both CCA and Impulse Point ( http://www.impulse.com/)?  Impulse Point was designed for higher ed and is 
priced very attractively.  So far, we've only seen presentations and nothing live.

Any feedback would be great.



Mark



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> > > franklin () TXSTATE EDU 07/14/05 3:13 PM >>>

This is a response from our network lead who implemented CCA a month or
so ago:

I got tired of trying to keep up with the IP's used for windows update.
Using the host names is much better, but even then it's a moving target.
Microsoft sometimes adds new sub domains and in the latest version of
the update page it's a url under microsoft.com.

We are allowing traffic to everything ending in microsoft.com and
g.msn.com. That way the updates always work (so far) and students can
search for and download patches manually. There are cases when windows
update claims that a machine is fully patched but it is still missing
something. The helpdesk can tell what's missing from the reports and the
student can search for KBxxxx and download and install it manually.

Anders Engle
Systems Programmer I
Texas State University

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Subject: [SECURITY] Windows Updates and Cisco Clean Access


We are implementing Cisco Clean Access (formally Perfigo).  It has gone
really well but we keep coming up with problems with Windows Update, it
fails because CCA is blocking the IP.  When this happens, I use a
sniffer and add the new IP address that Microsoft is using and then it
works, until they change address's again.  Cisco says use the Host
setting allowing requests that end in "update.microsoft.com".  This does
not always work.

I am really at a loss because it works for 95% of the machines but I can
not afford to have 5% of the students in my office when they get back
from the summer.

Any Ideas?

Martin Flagg
Hiram College


Doug Sandford
Information Security Officer
University of Alabama
Seebeck Computer Center
doug () ua edu

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