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Re: smtp redirection


From: Mark Borrie <mark.borrie () OTAGO AC NZ>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:59:05 +1200

We have strictly managed our smtp traffic for nearly 5 years. All
incoming AND outgoing smtp traffic must pass through our mailhubs.
This is achived by using MX records that point to the mailhubs which
then pass the mail onto the correct host.

Our DNS service is the same on each side of our firewall so this
means that internal email also potentially passes though the
mailhubs. That hasn't caused any problems and in fact has helped
clean up virus outbreaks on campus.

With our config we have been able to managed spam, viruses, open
relays, malicious attachments and avoid our systems being used as
spamming botnets.

The hardest part was to get buy in from some sys admins. Initially we
made all mail servers register and permitted those systems to
continue to receive and send smtp directly. When these admins saw
the advantages of the mailhubs they joined in. After 6 months or so
we made it compulsary to use the mailhubs and haven't looked back.

Having only a small number of systems that can receive smtp traffic
has helped keep our mail systems pretty clean. On one occasion
during an email virus outbreak I simply stopped accepting incoming
email for an hour or so on the mailhubs while we waited on new virus
signatures. This let us clean up without worrying about more viruses
getting in the way.

Mark.

On 10 May 2005 at 14:32, John wrote:


Greetings All,

We are redirecting smtp traffic inbound to some campus mail servers via MX records in our DNS
to an anti-spam appliance (Bluecat Meridius) and find some email circumvents the appliance
apparently by using DNS IP lookup for host resolution and not using MX records to send mail to
mail servers on our campus. The vendor recommends blocking inbound port 25 to the campus
mail servers from the internet. I favor this approach. However the mail folks are concerned that
some legitimate email may be dropped this way.

For those of you who redirect email to an anti-spam device; how are you doing this redirection and
how are you dealing with the spammers who circumvent the MX record approach?

Before changing MX records I set a route map on a router to redirect smtp traffic to the Meridius
but the IP destination headers did not have the Meridius address so the appliance dropped the
traffic. We run a public class B and do not do NAT.

I very much appreciate your solutions, ideas, critiques and war stories.

Cheers,

John Garner
jgarner () sfasu edu
Stephen F. Austin State U

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