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Re: Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to Acce lerate Complaints About Illegal File Sharing
From: "eward {Elaine N. Ward, ISO}" <eward () FORUM UTEXAS EDU>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:09:46 -0600
Tracy-- I've not talked with Georgia on this particular issue. We investigate reports of alleged infringement much as we would reports of other possible violations of UT Austin's acceptable use policy. We then thank the sender, letting them know that the University takes all reports seriously and will investigate. This acknowledgement includes a link to our warning that UT retains the right to terminate computing services of those who repeatedly infringe on another's copyright. Elaine Elaine N. Ward Information Technology Policy Officer ITS Information Security Office The University of Texas at Austin (512) 475-9482 pgp keyID: 0xDE40B956 -----Original Message----- From: Tracy Mitrano [mailto:tbm3 () CORNELL EDU] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:30 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to Acce lerate Complaints About Illegal File Sharing Has anyone been in touch with Georgia Harper, UT System Attorney, in Austin on this and related issues? In these matters, she is my guiding star. Tracy At 04:13 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Along those lines, I've requested that the companies working for the RIAA that send the complaints at least have a digital signature so that we can verify that these messages are actually coming from a legitimate source. I'm still holding my breath!!!! I think the bottom line is that there
isn't
a university out there (at least that I know of) that is willing to push
the
issue to far. (bad press, money, etc.) Tim -----Original Message----- From: Jim Moore [mailto:jhmfa () RIT EDU] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:42 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to Accelerate Complaints About Illegal File Sharing First, Thank you Morrow for giving us the heads up on a lot of things.
When
it comes from you or some of the other leaders in the community, I read it right away. Thanks for taking the initiative. I hope to be able to share more. Second, I also see the complaints but especially RIAA has produced nothing in response to my requests for information on their methods of investigation. I haven't had a lot of students say "It wasn't me." (Some of them it really wasn't - Compromised system ;-0 ) But on the other hand, if we pass the complaint along, and they say "prove it" then we have the choice to investigate every complaint ($$$ / complaint) or push back on
RIAA
with "standards of evidence". Really, with what they include in the complaints, they have an allegation and NO EVIDENCE. Has anyone with a lawyer on staff gotten an opinion on what constitutes the basis of a copyright infringement complaint? They have to be going on
more
than file names. (Don't they?) But an MD5 or something similar on digital audio would seem to be too imprecise. I can't believe that they listen to enough to determine that it is the actual material (and another lawyer question - how much is enough?) With the RIAA, I even asked if they could have their investigative methods reviewed by E&Y or PWC or Red Siren for soundness. Didn't want to hear it. MPAA was a different story. They seem willing to have their investigative methods reviewed external sources. Jim Moore ISO Rochester Institute of Technology jhmfa () rit edu -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Security Discussion Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU]On Behalf Of H. Morrow Long Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:24 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: [SECURITY] Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to
Accelerate
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- Re: Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to Acce lerate Complaints About Illegal File Sharing St. Laurent, Tim (Dec 04)
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- Re: Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to Acce lerate Complaints About Illegal File Sharing Tracy Mitrano (Dec 04)
- Re: Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to Acce lerate Complaints About Illegal File Sharing eward {Elaine N. Ward, ISO} (Dec 05)