Re: Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to Acce lerate Complaints About Illegal File Sharing

[Tracy Mitrano <tbm3 () CORNELL EDU>]

Has anyone been in touch with Georgia Harper, UT System Attorney, in Austin
on this and related issues?  In these matters, she is my guiding star.

Tracy

At 04:13 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> Along those lines, I've requested that the companies working for the RIAA
> that send the complaints at least have a digital signature so that we can
> verify that these messages are actually coming from a legitimate source.
> I'm still holding my breath!!!!  I think the bottom line is that there isn't
> a university out there (at least that I know of) that is willing to push the
> issue to far.  (bad press, money, etc.)
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Moore [mailto:jhmfa () RIT EDU]
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:42 PM
> To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
> Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to
> Accelerate Complaints About Illegal File Sharing
>
>
> First, Thank you Morrow for giving us the heads up on a lot of things.  When
> it comes from you or some of the other leaders in the community, I read it
> right away.  Thanks for taking the initiative.  I hope to be able to share
> more.
>
> Second, I also see the complaints but especially RIAA has produced nothing
> in response to my requests for information on their methods of
> investigation.  I haven't had a lot of students say "It wasn't me."  (Some
> of them it really wasn't - Compromised system ;-0 )  But on the other hand,
> if we pass the complaint along, and they say "prove it" then we have the
> choice to investigate every complaint ($$$ / complaint) or push back on RIAA
> with "standards of evidence".  Really, with what they include in the
> complaints, they have an allegation and NO EVIDENCE.
>
> Has anyone with a lawyer on staff gotten an opinion on what constitutes the
> basis of a copyright infringement complaint?   They have to be going on more
> than file names. (Don't they?)  But an MD5 or something similar on digital
> audio would seem to be too imprecise.  I can't believe that they listen to
> enough to determine that it is the actual material (and another lawyer
> question - how much is enough?)
>
> With the RIAA, I even asked if they could have their investigative methods
> reviewed by E&Y or PWC or Red Siren for soundness.  Didn't want to hear it.
>
> MPAA was a different story.  They seem willing to have their investigative
> methods reviewed external sources.
>
> Jim Moore
> ISO
> Rochester Institute of Technology
> jhmfa () rit edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Security Discussion Group Listserv
> [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU]On Behalf Of H. Morrow Long
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:24 AM
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> Subject: [SECURITY] Chronicle: 12/02: Recording Industry Plans to Accelerate
> Complaints About Illegal File Sharing
>
>
> http://chronicle.com/free/2002/12/2002120202t.htm
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