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Re: Bandwidth and the Cyber Weapon of Availability


From: Dakota Nelson <dakota.w.nelson () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 17:27:15 +0000

Dave,

It's worth noting that "offer" cyberweapons don't have to offer *true*
information! There's a lot of focus on exfiltrating data, but infiltrating
the right data has the potential to be incredibly powerful.

For a somewhat-but-not-entirely serious look, I found
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/143378109231/cyberbombs-and-isis to be
interesting.


Dakota

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 7:29 AM dave aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:

A key difference between the Immunity mindset on "Cyber Weapons"
<https://prezi.com/zayyak66yyia/what-is-a-cyber-weapon/>and the public
one is that we see the ability to *offer* information that cannot be
removed from the public Internet as an important, and perhaps the most
important type of cyber weapon. If you don't think an AC-130 hurling USB
keys full of videos and software into a city isn't a cyber weapon, then you
won't agree with our paradigm and you'll have to live with being wrong. :)

 [image: Basic Cyberweapon Theory.PNG]
Emin Gun Sirer has written two blogposts that should be must-reads by the
policy sect or anyone in the security business and this is one of them:

<http://hackingdistributed.com/2015/12/31/when-surveillance-is-accessible-by-all/>
http://hackingdistributed.com/2015/12/31/when-surveillance-is-accessible-by-all/

TL;DR summary: "All the databases are going to be available to everyone."
Cyber intelligence has long depended on the gap between what people knew
was publicly available and what they could *access*. You know how
powerful even a PHONE BOOK DATABASE is when it's not publicly known to be
accessible? Try running an Alias for an intel officer who didn't actually
have an apartment in Istanbul when she said she did, and I can check in 20
seconds with my stolen DB. This is true for the OPM database, all the
airline databases and of course the hospital databases. The same techniques
that Twitter uses to figure out what brand of soap to sell you can detect a
fake persona without breaking a digital sweat.

Following from these self-evident facts, eventually every service that
uses aliases is going to transition to just having to timeslice from normal
people with normal jobs, which is going to require they haven't alienated
the entire technical community they rely on for access and influence. (In
case you wanted a link to the Comey-misteps-of-the-day).

The obvious trendline is that the amount of data that makes a company run
is a constant. Mail spools just don't get big that fast, and the important
information in them gets bigger even slower. Remember when downloading a
movie was a big deal? Now you download 4 in between waking up and heading
to the airport onto your Kindle.

In other words: The increase in available bandwidth has completely shifted
some equation and made "Offer" cyber weapons more important than they ever
otherwise could have been. You only need a tiny dwell time on the main mail
server of a company to end that company forever, and that dwell time is now
smaller than the target's "Indicators of Compromise" analysis speed. Or as
Microsoft's researcher Sasha would say: "You win automatically when your
exfil time is less than log aggregation and analysis periods."

On a completely unrelated note, I'm headed to DC today to attend a conference
at Georgetown <https://msfs.georgetown.edu/CyberConference2016> on Cyber
Policy. I think part of what annoys everyone in the cyber policy world
about the State Dept. fucking up Wassenaar so much is that it has absorbed
all the bandwidth available for analysis for two whole years on an
important subject. The only silver lining is that by aligning the
opposition to their bone-headedness on the subject we may have congealed a
multi-cell predator out of the primordial soup. :)

-dave

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