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Re: Defeating what's next


From: Kristian Erik Hermansen <kristian.hermansen () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:30:43 -0700

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, John Strand <john () blackhillsinfosec com> wrote:
Why does it seem we are moving from blacklists to "new and improved"
blacklists?

It seems like the industry is caught between choosing between things that
dont work (i.e. blacklists, "better" firewalls) and things which are hard to
implement (i.e. whitelists, better internal network segmentation, baseline
monitoring, etc.)

I think Paul said, "Every time you hit the easy button, God deploys another
trojan on your network."

It's the same reason DENTISTS STILL HAVE JOBS. We can -- with nearly
100% certainty -- prevent tooth decay. The fact that we don't shows
that we are human and naturally flawed. Even when 100% of the problem
is within our control, humans still get cavities. Security is far less
in one's control, due to vendor requirements / open source libraries /
etc., so the problem of course will be much worse. How many people on
this list have had a cavity in their recent past? If you can't control
your own mouth's hygiene, then forget about security.

If we ever solve the problem of preventing cavities in dentistry as a
human race, then maybe the issue of computer security has some chance
for solution in the future. But until then...everyone is going to get
hacked, and even if you don't get hacked directly, you get to live in
a PRISM for the rest of your life...
--
Kristian Erik Hermansen
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristianhermansen
https://profiles.google.com/kristian.hermansen
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