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Twitter: (verb) to fail under exponential growth


From: Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:49:34 -0400

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Talking with my British friends lately they're all quite obsessed with 
trash. For good reason, I assume, since they now have strict recycling 
regulations that make the "please sort your trash" Miami Beach and NYC 
laws seem as worthless as the paper they wasted making them. In NYC the 
landlord theoretically got fined, but if you were up in the morning you 
could watch the trash trucks throw the recycling into the same bin as 
the rest of the trash. Here in Miami it's more real, but you still 
generate a huge amount of trash every week. Essentially it's an obscene 
amount of bottles and other things that look different for marketing's 
sake. What if, like in DKM's books, everything had the same basic 
package? If all beer comes in "bulbs" then you don't need to recycle, 
you just need to reuse them.

I don't know if that's ever going to happen, but it's clear that what we 
have now is not even close to sustainable. It's a model that fails under 
exponential growth, like Twitter or anti-virus signatures.

I've always wondered about the rest of our technology that fails in a 
similar way. Why do our application assessment tools not also fix the 
bugs they find? If you're trying to buy web application scanning, then 
your scanner should also be updating the application to fix those pesky 
SQL Injection bugs. Your binary/source analysis tool should be svn 
commiting patches to fix your overflows. If you have to rely on a 
developer to understand the bugs themselves, it doesn't scale. Your 
network attack tool should upload and run the right patch 
automatically.[1] Does the modern generation of scanners do this?

- -dave
[1] Obviously you can upload a management program like BindView instead, 
but this means you have to MANAGE everything, which doesn't scale.

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