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From: "Lance M. Havok" <lmh () info-pull com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:16:28 +0100

What the hell. I thought nothing would drag me out of hiding, I
thought no one would ruin my well deserved get away from this sad
community (heh!). But at some point, we have to follow the call of
duty!

On 1/28/08, Brian <bmc () snort org> wrote:
Again, small improvements are better than none.

Anthrax via postal mail might not blow a whole in your house, but it
has a good chance at killing most of the people inside.  Then what
would you do?  Oh, install a gamma irradiation system at the postal
service to proactively filter a newly used known attack at a common
choke point.

Aight, Brain, let me introduce you to anthrax. It's a pretty old
illness. My family ancestors (say, my grandpa, RIP) was a shepherd. He
walked hills with a cane, a freaking insane dog and a whole load of
sheeps in mating time. The Lord also walked with a cane and sheeps,
through the valley of the shadow of death. And he is still alive
(well, I'm aware that most pro-IDS people are atheists, so this line
might not make sense to you).

Let me save you from Wikipedia craving time, Anthrax was an illness
that affected most normally sheeps and other hairy animals (back when
my grandpa liked to mess with animals, I'm sure we didn't bury him
with a sheep though), causing symptoms that normally showed up first
on their skin. The animals, as clever as pro-IDS humans, chewed their
legs to death. It was itchy as hell (now you can go to Wikipedia in a
futile attempt to counter claim these statements, which I will likely
ignore, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthrax#Cutaneous_.28skin.29_anthrax).

Then they died once their limbs started rotting or got severely
infected (you guess, sheep saliva is serious scheise, although the
urine does serve as a disinfectant if you stand the odor). In modern
society, we have preventive measures to avoid dieing of stuff like
cholera (that funny bacteria that causes great diarrhea and messes up
your intestine fluids) and anthrax itself. Unless you are into
bestiality and get your parts full of spores and what not. I guess you
will die of something else before anthrax kills you.

I don't know why you mentioned it, but I guess you are a gringo and
you've never been in care of sheeps or had to sleep in the cold night
out just to have them eating fresh grass. Great for you buddy. Still
no freaking idea on what anthrax is besides what you've seen in FOX
NEWS or the newspapers during the post 11-September events. Stop using
nonsense examples in nonsense arguments. Please.

You can manually iron all of your inbound postal mail, since its
mostly good enough [0], or you could have your postal service
implement the filtering [1].  Yes, the postal service has known evasions
to this attack.  You can go on ironing your mail, I will continue to
let the postal service filter out most of the attacks.

Buddy, cholera is still killing people in Africa. So what, stop
chewing burgers, that will certainly help humanity better than ironing
mail or filtering your spam. Claiming that IDS are necessary is like
claiming obese people are necessary as well. They aren't, but shit
happens. Live with it, find something else to waste your time on.

Again, small improvements are better than none.

Again, we are buying crap we don't need, just because some people want
to make us believe we truly need it. IDS are the excuse to waste the
security budget on something else that keeps our boss friends (that
obviously have money interest on security companies) to get some
company paid holidays in Disneyworld. That said, IDS give you an
illusion of security. Now you can go watch American Idol.


By your exaggeration, you miss the point.  Every household has an
iron, ok you might not own one but most Americans probably do.  I
would much rather have the USPS use their known evaidable solution
than to convince everyone in the US to iron their mail.

I'm not sure everyone in the US knows what an iron is. Might start
better off teaching some grammar and geography.

BTW, I'm not sure why most IDS defenders aren't even employed by
Sourcefire. Defending a commercial product for no benefits is pretty
sad. It's called fanboyism, and it makes you kinda stupid.
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