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Re: Coverage and a recent paper by L. Suto
From: "Stephen John Smoogen" <smooge () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:47:34 -0600
On 10/15/07, matthew wollenweber <mwollenweber () gmail com> wrote:
Personally, I don't understand the current trend in fuzzer research to go obtain full code coverage. Sure, it's nice to check everything and have a fuzzer traverse all the functions in the code, but maybe that's at the cost of doing it all poorly. If you have a fixed amount of time to do the assessment, I'd rather spend the time where it's needed. As you said, it's better to thoroughly test the code in spots where the bugs are.
However, when you are hacking someone's brain (eg the core of marketing/sales) to get someone to buy your product and keep buying your product... you want to use the magic words. Most big purchases are going to be done by some mid-level manager who has been asked to prepare a report on how their code looks towards hacking for some obscure SOX report.. even if he was a hacker 2 months ago.. he has been to so many finance meetings that all those cells went to Bermuda and didn't leave a forwarding address. In the time-pressed managers brain 100% always sells better than say 10%. Even if you find 100% of the bugs in 10% of the code, and they find 10% of the bugs in 100% of the code.. saying words like "Complete code coverage" sits well in managements risk averse mind. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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