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Re: From blackbox to grey-box during Web App tests


From: "Thomas Ptacek" <tqbf () matasano com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:28:16 -0500

It's nice that they're doing this for JVM, but isn't this exactly what
PaiMei and BinNavi (and, if you want to get snarky, gcov) do for
native binaries?

Can someone help me understand what web app magic this tool adds?

On 10/9/07, Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:
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So  Fortify has this out - it's interesting, but I think it's not what
I want. Has anyone used it?

http://www.fortifysoftware.com/products/tracer/

I dunno why everyone gets so hung up on metrics when they should be
going for the jugular.

What I want is to use SPIKE Proxy and while I'm testing the web app
have every CreateProcess and SQL Statement fed to me and then have a
filter so I can look only at what I care about (and avoid spamming
their network too much - especially on busy sites).

Theoretically you could then write something that autodetected and
bypassed filters and automated getting you your SQL injection in the
first place. And you would have at least one eye in the land of the
blind SQL Injection.

It's probably more work to write this email than write up the code
using Immunity Debugger and SPIKE Proxy, so maybe I'll just go off and
do that.

- -dave

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