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Re: Risk Management Services


From: "Adriel T. Desautels" <adriel () netragard com>
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:33:19 -0400

Host Intrusion Detection Systems by their very nature require that they are
deployed on each host to be monitored. That creates a scalability and
management issue. IDS/IPS is centralized for the most part. You simply
install an agent at the ³focal² points of the network(s) and monitor all
ingress and egress traffic.


On 4/2/07 11:23 PM, "C Q" <kyle.c.quest () gmail com> wrote:

There's probably two reasons why nobody wants to buy HIDS...
First, which especially applies to Blink (made by eEye), it's
because it's unusable... I turned it off and uninstalled it
after using it for just a few minutes. Second, companies
rely on their significant investements in firewalls, IPSes,
application proxies, etc and they feel that they are protected
enough (I'm not saying that they are correct in their assumptions,
but that's what they usually think :-) ).

Companies do, however, buy other types of host-based
"risk management systems" that try to protect their IP,
sensitive information, etc, which also helps them with compliance
(SOX,HIPAA,PCI,etc).

On 4/2/07, Dave Aitel <dave.aitel () gmail com> wrote:
A HIDS shakeup? Sana takes in more money and Ross Brown gets fired from
eEye's CEO all in the same day? I never can get anyone to buy HIDS. We often
recommend it in our reports, but no company ever bites the bullet and does
it. Perhaps when they think HIDS they think this:
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/pic2903.jpg .

I wanted to point out that Applied Security has posted the results from their
shmoocon hacking contest (note that I come in last!).
http://www.appliedsec.com/conferences.html

They've also got a server set up so everyone can play, which, I have to say,
takes cojones. I guess that's the sort of thing you can do when you are a
sponsor for GRSecurity.

-dave


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