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Re: Vista speach recognition


From: "George Ou" <george_ou () lanarchitect net>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 02:04:58 -0800

Rich verified it will work and you can execute code.  So long as you stay in
the user-realm, you won't trigger UAC which cannot be bypassed "by default"
as Microsoft says. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian Krahmer [mailto:krahmer () suse de] 
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:32 AM
To: George Ou
Cc: dailydave () lists immunitysec com; 'Rich Mogull'
Subject: RE: [Dailydave] Vista speach recognition

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, George Ou wrote:

So we do not know yet whether dl'ing and executing user-level binaries
works? Or does it not work (according to previous mail)?

Sebastian

Doh!  Maybe it was the right assumption that UAC isn't triggered on 
user-level executables.  I need to verify but need to wait till I 
rebuild my Vista system.  If anyone can verify this why my Vista 
system is being repaired, much appreciated.

-----Original Message-----
From: George Ou [mailto:george_ou () lanarchitect net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:26 AM
To: 'Sebastian Krahmer'; 'dailydave () lists immunitysec com'; 'Rich Mogull'
Subject: RE: [Dailydave] Vista speach recognition

Ah I made a wrong assumption.  Any executable you launch regardless of 
whether it attempts to access system files or not will trigger UAC.

The file deletion concept still works though.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: George Ou [mailto:george_ou () lanarchitect net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:09 AM
To: 'Sebastian Krahmer'; 'dailydave () lists immunitysec com'; 'Rich Mogull'
Subject: RE: [Dailydave] Vista speach recognition

I just verified that TinyURL.com will give you a nice URL to an
executable.

Here's an example of a URL that opens a .EXE file.
http://tinyurl.com/3d588b

Now imagine that this was actually a user-mode malicious payload that 
avoids triggering UAC which contains ransomware.  It's very easy to 
use Vista speech command open IE7 and say "tinyURL.com/3d588b", 
"enter", "run".  That will actually download and launch your desired 
payload from any website and TinyURL will make it easy to say.  This 
is actually easier than my successful document-deleting recycle bin 
emptying test because it's a shorter script.



George


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~ perl self.pl
~ $_='print"\$_=\47$_\47;eval"';eval
~ krahmer () suse de - SuSE Security Team
~


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