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Re: Caffeine is bad for you, calc is worse.


From: Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:07:48 -0400

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For the record, I like the WEIS a lot, mostly because making money on
exploits is my job. And I understand it's really hard to get good
papers in the area. I just also find it amusing to read some of the
really bad ones. Often it seems like the bad ones bite off bigger
concepts than they can chew, and have to make up really out there
models to compensate.

- -dave


dan () geer org wrote:
Always easy to make fun of academic papers, but here's a couple of
ripostes in return...

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When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in
 numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure
it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is a
meagre and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of
knowledge, but you have scarcely, in your thoughts, advanced to the
stage of science.

-- William Thomson, Lord Kelvin, 1883
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Amateurs study cryptography; professionals study economics.

-- Allan Schiffman
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Security folks are from Mars.  Business people are from Wheaton.

-- Adam Shostack
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This year's WEIS is under Ross Anderson's tutelage.



--dan, on too many deadlines to read more


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