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RE: A single line drawn by Picasso, an Iraqi artist,and a buffer overflow.


From: john blumenthal <jblumen () xmission com>
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:07:51 -0600

So we can agree that exploits are not considered art or speech?  At least in
some circles.  I see this line of thinking as more back to the future from
encryption regulation on key lengths.

Note that I probably cannot claim constitutional protections in the U.S. for
something I am "expressing" in Tuvalu, so that defense is unlikely.

Anyone aware of legal dens focused on these issues like Zittrain at Harvard
or Lessig at Stanford?

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Wysopal [mailto:weld () vulnwatch org]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:42 AM
To: john blumenthal
Cc: dailydave
Subject: RE: [Dailydave] A single line drawn by Picasso, an Iraqi
artist,and a buffer overflow.




On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, john blumenthal wrote:

A few years back Greg Hoglund and I explored the use of an auction model
("0bay") that would be anonymized while using a verification and
reputation
model much like eBay does today.  Some of the recent webmobs resemble this
model.  Our employer at the time had us tear down the site based on legal
advice.  ;-)  I'd love to put the system back online if some sharp
Stanford
lawyer interested in pro bono work and alot of publicity might donate
their
time to building legal firewalls.

News from the Future..

John Blumenthal was arrested on Friday for aiding and abetting Al Qaeda.
He is charged with breaking the USA Patriot Act after selling cyberweapons
to the terrorist group. Mr. Blumenthal claimed he didn't know who the
purchasers were and that it just doesn't matter, stating, "Its a global
free market that can't be controlled." He added, "My exploits are
constitutionally protected free speech."

A government wiretap showed that the exploits for sale from his Tuvalu
based "0Bay" website were purchased by a German Al Qaeda cell which was
under investigation. The terrorists had planned to use the exploits to
shut down New York City's power grid during rush hour to maximze the death
toll from releasing sarin gas in the subways.  Attorney General Gonzales
said that the government is now considering adding exploit code to the
list of restricted technologies under ITAR so that these websites can be
shut down before cyberweapons are sold to terrorists.

-Chris


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