Re: ACM

[Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>]

plonky wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 23:42:01 -0500, Dave Aitel <dave () immunitysec com> wrote:
>
> > The ACM Communications, a rather prestigious journal in the academic
> > community, I think, has a  one page article by a George Ledin Jr.
> > (ledin () sonoma edu) entitled "Not Teaching Viruses and Worms is Harmful".
> > It's worth a read, and it's nice to see an academic on that side of the
> > fence officially, considering most of the industry is watching their
> > bottom line and trying to quash any form of information on the subject
> > they can.
> >
> > -dave
>
>
> Yes, just for exemple, why dont they even respect the will of the
> virus author, who called cabir "Cabire" ?

I'm with Dave, the AV industry is extremely hostile and tries to kill 
any sort of information medium they do not control.. that's how business 
is done these days. Nothing against the AV-ers themselves.. these are 
just the facts of life.

Between maintaining personal status by keeping others out and business 
concerns by hyping threats and making sure others don't know squat about 
them, the AV industry is one of the closest and most snobbish around.
Most of the people themselves are actually rather nice and drink rather 
dark beer, like anyone should.

As to writing viruses, personally I believe it isn't necessary and it 
isn't needed, but it is potentially useful for a researcher. anyone who 
says otherwise is living in a different world.

As to people who write the viruses and do more than just writing, they 
are called VX-ers. They are blackhats. Why should we care how they call 
things? I believe naming things different than what the VX-er intended 
is what I'd do, given a choice.

Some of the VX-ers are annoying kiddies, others are some of the best 
coders and reversers around. That doesn't change the facts of what their 
creations, once out in the open, cause.

        Gadi.
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