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Re: Patent fun


From: dave <dave () immunitysec com>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:53:10 -0400

Right, but that doesn't help bobsfish.com when some SCO sues them for patent violation. What would help them would being able to go to EFF and say "Hey, I'm being SCOed for this patent, can you invalidate it?" and EFF saying "Yes." At which point the SCOer has wasted 25K (or however much they paid) for their patent.

-dave


Mordy Ovits wrote:

On Friday 02 July 2004 07:45 am, dave wrote:
A database app anyone could submit to, which would store and
timestamp any idea you wanted to send it, occasionally submitting hashes
to the NY Times or at the bottom of mailing list emails (to verify
timestamps). However, this database would not be searchable by the
public.

Before scientific discovery became public, it was jealously hoarded. One problem the hoarders ran into was that someone else might independently make the same discovery. While they may not have wanted to give away the knowledge, they *certainly* didn't want to give a way the fame. The solution they arrived at is similar to your idea.

The author wrote up his discovery in full detail. Then he "one-way hashed" it by taking the first letter of each word and writing them in sequence. This created a document significantly smaller, consisting of a nonsensical bunch of letters. He mailed this "proof" far and wide, so as to "timestamp" it and put the prior in prior art. Now if anyone were to lay claim to the idea, letting the cat out of the bag, the former person would publish the original paper. The timestamped hash served as proof that the newly published document was not newly written.

Mordy


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