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RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers
From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor () hammerofgod com>
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:18:57 -0800
One would be required not to disclose the fact that you were served a letter or what records you were "asked" to disclose. Apparently, the language of the letter is worded to make one think that cooperation is legally required, though it looks like it is voluntary. And even "required" is dubious... According to the ACLU, the "gag order" portion of the NSL provision of the Patriot Act was found to be unconstitutional on two occasions. But no, you couldn't be legally required to "lie." Had Guardster received such a letter, and they decided to comply, they would most likely have not responded at all rather than make a public statement to the contrary... t
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Shockley [mailto:steve.shockley () shockley net] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:11 AM To: bugtraq () securityfocus com Subject: Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:Note that if they had been served with an NSL (National SecurityLetter),they may be legally *required* to lie about it while cooperating.Actuallytruthfully saying "Yeah, an NSL showed up and we complied" could
land
themin jail....Requred to lie, or just required to not disclose the cooperation?
Current thread:
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers, (continued)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Jim Harrison (Dec 21)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers M. Burnett (Dec 26)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Thor (Hammer of God) (Dec 21)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Juha-Matti Laurio (Dec 26)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 27)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Kurt Buff (Dec 27)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Kevin Reiter (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Seth (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Steve Shockley (Dec 27)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers J. Oquendo (Dec 31)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Thor (Hammer of God) (Dec 31)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Craig Wright (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Rob Thompson (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 27)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers mark seiden-via mac (Dec 31)
- Re: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Jay Hennigan (Dec 31)
- RE: Cryptome: NSA has real-time access to Hushmail servers Jim Harrison (Dec 21)