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Re: Strange changes - any ideas?


From: avalon () coombs anu edu au (Darren Reed)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:23:44 +1000


In some mail from Fred Cohen, sie said:

We run a change-controlled environment, which means that we should be
aware of all changes.  To crosscheck this, we regularly do automated
change detection.  This morning, I made some minor changes to some user
areas and ran the change control checks only to find the changes listed
below. (Here are some select extracts)
[...]
Note that while the content changed, none of the times changed,
the space remained the same, etc.
[...]
Here's one where everything indicates a change, but the content is
unchanged! Sort of hard to believe - there were several of these.

These changes would normally indicate a massive corruption, a disk
crash, total system collapse, or takeover by bad-people.  I checked the
log files that would indicate any intrusions and found nothing to
indicate any out-of-the-ordinary usage.  I found an apparent file in a
directory listing - but when I tried to see it, it did not actually
exist.  I did a cat of /etc/motd (described above) and found that it had
a partial syslog entry appended to it - very strange stuf considering
that the MD5 checksum was unchanged!
[...]

I think the obvious thing would have been to find the backup tapes and use
"cmp -l" on the binary files.

Or something similar.

You might also want to check your sanity checking binaries, kernel and
database, just to be sure.

Also, I'm pretty sure that funny fsck runs won't get logged.



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