Re: Bruce Schneier on Google Apps. Do you trust Google?

["Ali, Saqib" <docbook.xml () gmail com>]

SPENCER MICHELS: The obvious question is, you or salesforce or IBM or
somebody else has MY data in YOUR servers, why should I rest easy?
There is a chance that they could do something with it. They could
give it to the government

ERIC SCHMIDT: If it is in your servers, the government can take it
too.  So it is important that we operate under exactly the same laws
that you do. And if your information is so important you have to hide
it from the government, we probably don't want you to give it to us
anyway.




On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:32 AM, sapran<sapran () gmail com> wrote:
> I totally agree with Kurt on the point of security trade-offs. Each case, in
> regard to moving data or a function to the cloud, is a subject for thorough
> risk analysis and strict calculation of the risk and gain proportion.
>
> I'd trust Google to some extent. Some definite, reasonable extent.
>
> --
> sapran
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.buff () gmail com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 13:40, Ali, Saqib<docbook.xml () gmail com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kurt Buff<kurt.buff () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > encrypted, and provably so, I don't buy it.
> > >
> > > This would entail that the SaaS provider has no means to decrypt the
> > > data i.e. host-proof hosting[1]. I have proposed[2] host-proof hosting
> > > in the past, but only for sensitive data e.g. PII. The problem with
> > > host-proof hosting is that it renders the search useless. If the SaaS
> > > provider has no means to decrypt the data, they can not search through
> > > the data for you.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host-proof_hosting
> > > 2a.
> > > http://srmsblog.burtongroup.com/2009/01/dlp-sharks-in-the-water-clouds-on-the-horizon.html?cid=6a00d8341e76b553ef011278fc4dd828a4#comment-6a00d8341e76b553ef011278fc4dd828a4
> > > 2b. http://bit.ly/3ZByKO
> >
> >
> >
> > Security is all about tradeoffs, I suppose. I'll take the security
> > over the convenience, myself.
> >
> > Kurt
> >
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