RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification

["Craig Wright" <cwright () bdosyd com au>]

They changed the process - not did away with the prac for GIAC Certs.
There are 2 levels -
   Silver = test only
   Gold = Test than Prac

Craig

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From: listbounce () securityfocus com on behalf of Tony UcedaVélez
Sent: Sat 24/03/2007 8:44 AM
To: 'Johnston Mark (UK)'; andrews () rbacomm com; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification




Agree with everything Mark noted, however, I believe they did away with the
practical as of roughly 2 years ago.  It may be only relevant to only some
of the GIAC certifications, but I distinctly remember seeing that the
practical was retired for various GIAC certs.

If this still holds true, its regrettable b/c the practical was indeed a
huge aspect in truly learning about a security disciplined compared to the
traditional multiple choice Q&A that you get with the exam portion and other
security examinations.

Overall, I highly recommend the cert along with partaking in an actual boot
camp prior to the cert.  Like Mark said, great way to intermingle with some
of the top security professionals today.

Best,

Tony UcedaVélez, CISM, CISA, GIAC
President
VerSprite, LLC
(office) 678.938.3434
(email) tonyuv[at]versprite[dot]com
(web)   www.versprite.com


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From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On
Behalf Of Johnston Mark (UK)
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:06 AM
To: andrews () rbacomm com; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification

Hey there,

The biggest distinguishing factor between the 2 certifications is that for
the GIAC certs, you need to complete a practical. This is where I believe
the value comes in, as to be able to pass you must have the practical
knowledge. Take for example the GCFW ... when I did it you needed to design
a secure network, and display the configurations for the particular
components that you used. Then you had to show an attack on a previously
designed network.

If you participate in the courses, you'll also get to meet some of the top
guys in the security industry ... like Eric Cole, Stephen Northcutt Chris
Brenton.

Cheers
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of andrews () rbacomm com
Sent: 14 March 2007 13:36
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: The Value of GIAC/GSEC Certification


Does the GIAC/GSEC certification have value for someone with the CISSP
certification?

I am planning on getting my CISSP this year, but I may have a chance to go
for the GSEC a bit earlier.  Would that add any value, or is it a waste of
time if I can attain the CISSP?

Brad




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