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Re: pen test
From: "Serg B" <sergeslists () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:06:34 +1100
To perform an ethical-hack you need a disclaimer form clearly outlining what you are going to do and what you are not going to do. For example, will you be held liable if your test crashes a server and as a result costs a web hosting company thousands of dollars in lost revenue during the down-time (depending on the size of the company damage can be calculated in thousands of dollars per minute)? You need a very detailed disclaimer form outlining what is and is not in scope, techniques used and an outline of risk to the company. If you "just" have a go you may get away with it or you may be sharing a studio apartment in a federal "holiday reserve" with some hairy guy, for a very long time - your choice. Also keep in mind that some companies will not want to be audited by untrusted source, what assurance do they have that you will not publish your findings on the Internet, hand them over to the competitors or sell personal data acquired during the test? Serg On Dec 11, 2007 11:13 PM, Worrell, Brian <BWorrell () isdh in gov> wrote:
Michael, Am I wrong, but there are lots of practices and in some cases laws that say that you need to run vulnerability assessments to be compliant. If you were to ask you web host in writing before doing it, that should solve the possible "legality" issue that it sounds like you talking about. As far as I know, White Hat hacking has never been illegal, if done correctly and above board. If it was, why would SANS and other offer Certified Hacker classes and certs? Thanks Brian -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Michael R. Martinez Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:54 PM To: Marty Resnick; listbounce () securityfocus com; security-basics Subject: Re: pen test Marty, absolutely not, this is called hacking. Pen testing is actively exploiting a server, identifying a weakness exploiting gaining access. Are you talking about scanning ports? Could you provide a little more detail. If you mean pen-testing, then the answer is no. Cheers ------Original Message------ From: Marty Resnick Sender: listbounce () securityfocus com To: security-basics Sent: Dec 10, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: pen test Am I able to pen test or run a vulnerability assessment on my web hosting company. I got the idea after reading this article. http://www.securitypark.co.uk/Security_article.asp?articleid=260173 -- Marty Resnick Techmaking Inc. (877) 291-1110 (office) (661) 209-2089 (mobile) (805) 512-9603 (fax) marty () techmaking com Michael R. Martinez TF: 800-987-7307
Current thread:
- Re: pen test Michael R. Martinez (Dec 10)
- RE: pen test Worrell, Brian (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Michael R. Martinez (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Worrell, Brian (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Michael R. Martinez (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Ken . Carty (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Michael R. Martinez (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Craig Wright (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Worrell, Brian (Dec 12)
- Re: pen test Serg B (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Craig Wright (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Worrell, Brian (Dec 13)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- pen test Marty Resnick (Dec 10)
- Re: pen test Albert R. Campa (Dec 12)
- RE: pen test Jayson Agagnier (Dec 12)