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RE: death of the security community
From: "Craig Wright" <cwright () bdosyd com au>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:58:14 +1100
Hello, You have stated "scriptkiddie community(the greatest fear we face)". In ignorance maybe. Risk. Threat=medium-large (at best), impact=low, likelihood=medium, Risk=low-medium. More FUD. Things change, they evolve. Move with the times. The issue is the availability of patches for most people. Having a disclosed vulnerability does not help, it makes the "scriptkiddies" more effective and makes mitigation more difficult. The security of the Internet is a wide gate. There are to use your analogy a few closed paddocks, but it is in general a wide open field. A commons. Vulnerability pimping is a separate issue and not related to your basic argument - the (slow) growth of professionalism in the industry. The Internet has grown as a result of commerce and commercial activity, not despite it. Regards, Craig -----Original Message----- From: buriedanonymous () yahoo com [mailto:buriedanonymous () yahoo com] Sent: 20 March 2006 2:02 To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: death of the security community I seem not to understand what is happening to the security community..The profit and earning a living of the expert in the field is going to lead to the death of the security community.Now full disclosure movement is getting to be commercial disclosure, whereby each security community wants to expliot you to pay them to even get the latest vulnerability report and expliot,even when you need it to penetrate your server before the bad guy does.Which doesnt aid the people of the basics but even helps the scriptkiddie community(the greatest fear we face)I hope attention is given to these...and d fathers of d security comm' should have a re think, cos the continuity of the pursue of profit would bring the security of the internet wide as an open gate. odabo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- EARN A MASTER OF SCIENCE IN INFORMATION ASSURANCE - ONLINE The Norwich University program offers unparalleled Infosec management education and the case study affords you unmatched consulting experience. Tailor your education to your own professional goals with degree customizations including Emergency Management, Business Continuity Planning, Computer Emergency Response Teams, and Digital Investigations. http://www.msia.norwich.edu/secfocus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation in respect of matters arising within those States and Territories of Australia where such legislation exists. DISCLAIMER The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use or disclose the information. If you have received this email in error, please inform us promptly by reply email or by telephoning +61 2 9286 5555. Please delete the email and destroy any printed copy. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. You may not rely on this message as advice unless it has been electronically signed by a Partner of BDO or it is subsequently confirmed by letter or fax signed by a Partner of BDO. BDO accepts no liability for any damage caused by this email or its attachments due to viruses, interference, interception, corruption or unauthorised access. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- EARN A MASTER OF SCIENCE IN INFORMATION ASSURANCE - ONLINE The Norwich University program offers unparalleled Infosec management education and the case study affords you unmatched consulting experience. Tailor your education to your own professional goals with degree customizations including Emergency Management, Business Continuity Planning, Computer Emergency Response Teams, and Digital Investigations. http://www.msia.norwich.edu/secfocus ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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- death of the security community buriedanonymous (Mar 20)
- RE: death of the security community John Vill (Mar 20)
- RE: death of the security community Keith Morgan (Mar 21)
- Re: death of the security community Miguel Dilaj (Mar 20)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 20)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 21)
- RE: death of the security community Bob Radvanovsky (Mar 21)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 21)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 21)
- Re: death of the security community Hat Trick (Mar 22)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 24)
- RE: death of the security community Craddock, Larry (Mar 27)
- RE: death of the security community Craig Wright (Mar 28)
- RE: death of the security community John Vill (Mar 20)